trump for president good/bad for ireland

Dear MR TRUMP,

I intend standing as a Presidential candidate in these 26 Counties , I will be President of 32 Counties (don,t ask why).
Can you give me some advice please.
1. Is it ok to call the 10% English people here , rapists and drug pushers (hope I can)
2. Is it ok tell said Uk ie English people and those pesky Welsh/Scottish that they will pay for a new wall round Donegal (lets keep them out)
Although like your Mexican friends,(where more Americans are going to Mexico than are coming from Mexico) more Irish are now going to England than coming from it.
3. You are a dab hand @ bankruptcy , could we declare Ireland bankrupt and like you re-invent us as reality TV.
4. On womans issues , you could advise , having trundeld through a few.

You are an exceptional role model and you have umpteen downgrading features, there is no end to the beginning of your unsuitability for public office.

I wish you the most limited success.
 
Ah now Gerry....

You really should be ashamed of yourself and hang your head very low. Surely you've just committed an act of selfish indulgence? And selfish indulgence - as opposed to, say, non-selfish indulgence, is a particularly serious matter. It is completely irresponsible of you to jeopardise our futures by such reckless rhetoric. Don't you realise the consequences man?

I'm been thinking about the US election a little. Funny enuff, I'm not Hilary's biggest fan but without doubt, Trump is the evil of two lessers....
 
Dan I don't know why I engage with you, it came to grief before.

I am sure Gerry C will forgive me when I say that his public views on The Donald are really not quite as relevant for Ireland as those of the joint Fianna Gael Taioshaigh.

Make no mistake I despise The Donald and I say so on this public forum in the humility that it will not make a jot of difference for his attitude to Ireland.

The Donald is a bully. There are two possible approaches to a bully. Either you stand up to him. You only do this if you are confident that in the end you will defeat him. The alternative is to do as little as possible to rattle his cage, that unfortunately is the only rational option for Ireland inc.
 
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Dan Murray said:
I'd be interested in your bottom line. Do you have one or basically is it ok for Trump to say anything? If you have a bottom line, how fluid be it?
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I'll try my question again. How bad does he need to get before you think it appropriate for the Taoiseach to comment? Are there any limits in your opinion?
 
Absolutely no limits. As Voltaire said when asked on his deathbed to renounce the devil "now is not the time to make enemies". The world ex USA is metaphorically on the verge of entering a hell with The Donald as the devil. Definitely extremely rash to make enemies of him.

By all means if and when the Enabler beats him, join or even lead a mighty international "phew, that guy was really bad, well done Hillary for slaying the dragon" but until then our joint Taioshaigh should keep the head down and suppress their self (is that better?) indulgence.
 
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Duke of Marmalade said:
Dan I don't know why I engage with you, it came to grief before....

The Donald is a bully. There are two possible approaches to a bully. Either you stand up to him. You only do this if you are confident that in the end you will defeat him. The alternative is to do as little as possible to rattle his cage, that unfortunately is the only rational option for Ireland inc.
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Firstly, I know why I engage with you. You're a gas man and I enjoy very much your contributions, however misguided. :rolleyes::D

Secondly, I invariably get a little alarmed when someone asserts that there are just two approaches to a given scenario - (a) or (b), black or white. My sense is that life presents a much more nuanced palette of options.

It is true that pragmatism and diplomacy have their place within reason. With Trump, there is no reason - so I'm glad that our political leaders did not act as spinelessly as you would advocate. Souperism is a very, very unappealing quality. Personally, I'd prefer to tell the truth and be damned - but of course, as my Yankee pals would say, your mileage may vary.
 
Wow - I knew about his UK jaunt - didn't know this part.

This should be a good spectator sport - tapis rouge ou pas?!
 
Dan I don't think our joint Teeshee were as spine-full as you suggest.

It was pure party politics. MM as the shadow Teashop saw a great opportunity to embarrass the fronting Teashop. Henda was caught between a rock and a hp. His diplomatic antenna would warn him that it was not clever for Ireland inc. to antagonise a prospective US presie. But his domestic political instinct told him that such diplomacy would be unpopular. He put self and party ahead of country. It happens.
 
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Again nope - Leo (a genuine thought leader IMIO) was under no such pressure and was happy to call a spade a spade. He is not spineless and is typically as direct as his profession allows. I admire that and of course, he has form here. Also, have you actually seen the related David Cameroon speech? - very, very far from a man caught between a traditional souvenir and a brown sauce.

This, above all, to thine own self be true - The Bard of Avon
This, above all, to thine own self be untrue* - The Duke of Marmalade

*when expedient (read: when soup is at stake).

Of the two approaches, notwithstanding my reticence of limiting options to two, the former appeals to me more - or it, as the Bard so beautifully penned it, likes me well.

Can we just agree to differ please? YMMV and all that....;)
 
cremeegg said:
Donald trump is coming to Ireland.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/donald-trump-to-visit-ireland-this-month-1.2671320

He must have heard that we were talking about him here on AAM
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Damn it Cremeeg,

He might be gunning for me !

I will just have to accept {He will make America grate} if you get what I mean.]

Dear Dan ,

Mr Trump reportedly reads the Bible ,
One ex -governor is convinced Trump never reads the Bible ,
his reason iis,
he reckons Trump never read it because Trump isn,t in it.
 
Dear Duke,

Was it not also reported that on his deathbed Mr Voltaire on noticing candles flickering said
{ah the flames already}

Re our Dear 2 part-taoisach .
Like jellyfish ,no spine.

Insult department now closed.
 
he could still come ,quick stop off at shannon ,helicopter ride direct to and land on golf course ,in out before protesters can get organised
 
Dear Mr President Trump,

Please forgive my post on thread 61.
Like you, my words mean what I want them to mean.

Thread 61 , when read with very foggy glasses is praise-fest of your doubted qualities.
Rarely have I encountered a man of such minimalist adherence to clarity.
I am certain you will make an outstanding leader of the once free world.
You are destined to make America grate !

I have a small worry in that you may make the rest of us (grate) as well.
 
Watching BBC , they interviewed a Trumper from the Evangelical Belt.
Close to Quote from interviewee
{Young Lady , its the Bible we follow and that's spelt B.I.B.L.E.
= Be inspired before leaving earth,.}

Nice and quirky.
 
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