The X Factor.....it's BACK!!

truthseeker said:
But WAAAAAY too skinny, she actually makes Dannii Minogue look heavy. Her head is too big for her body.
I saw her on Saturday night on X-Factor and remarked to himself 'she looks like a famine victim who has been to hair and makeup'.
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The other thing to remember is that being on the telly makes you look about 20 pounds heavier than you are.

Scary thought to what she would look like in real life.
 
S.L.F said:
The other thing to remember is that being on the telly makes you look about 20 pounds heavier than you are.

Scary thought to what she would look like in real life.
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However bad it is, I definitely wouldn't say it to her face...
 
S.L.F said:
At least not if you don't mind bruises and plasters all over your face.
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Good to see ye don't hold grudges then, she had a moment where she acted like a thug, hasn't done since and never did previously to my knowledge. Plenty of people have done things they regret.
 
Agree. Look at some of our soccer/GAA "heroes" - a lot of them are lucky not to have been arrested. A thuggish unprovoked attack whether on the street or on the field is still a thuggish unprovoked attack.
 
MrMan said:
Good to see ye don't hold grudges then, she had a moment where she acted like a thug, hasn't done since and never did previously to my knowledge. Plenty of people have done things they regret.
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I think you give her too much credit (and please don't generalise MY comment - the comment was aimed at one specific person).

According to the judge:

This was an unpleasant piece of drunken violence... you showed no remorse whatsoever.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/3207822.stm
 
I was more surprised her career didnt fall apart immediately after that incident. I wouldnt expect her to now be missing out on jobs for something that happened 4 or 5 years ago considering her career has just gone on up and up since the incident.
She did do her community service, pay the victim and costs as ordered by court so she did repay her debt to society as ordered by a judge.

Still always found it a very off putting incident. Always thought it was the reason she was so quick to change her surname to her married name too, a lot of celebs keep the name that made them famous even after marraige, but Cherl was very quick to become publicly known as Mrs Cole.
 
truthseeker said:
Still always found it a very off putting incident. Always thought it was the reason she was so quick to change her surname to her married name too, a lot of celebs keep the name that made them famous even after marraige, but Cherl was very quick to become publicly known as Mrs Cole.
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makes sense
 
rmelly said:
I think you give her too much credit (and please don't generalise MY comment - the comment was aimed at one specific person).

According to the judge:



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/3207822.stm
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How was your comment generalised, I was refering to your remark about the lady in question.

Regards the name change and all that, it probably was encouraged by their manager to create space between the incident and the sugar coated pop image but you can hardly blame them for that when years later some people still can't see passed it.
 
MrMan said:
...you can hardly blame them for that when years later some people still can't see passed it.
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Do you think people should see past the violent transgressions of celebrities who (whether they like it or not) are role models for (in this case) young girls?
 
I do to be honest because in many of these cases the celebs are nothing more than young girls themselves. We supposedly adopt an attitude of rehabiltating offenders and when someone actually does manage to not re-offend then they should not be continually beat with the same stick for years to come. What she did was a minor offence that shouldn't colour the rest of her career. I think the sexploitation of girls is a much more worrying aspect of celebrity.
 
MrMan said:
How was your comment generalised, I was refering to your remark about the lady in question.
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Re: 'Plenty of people have done things they regret'...she doesn't regret it (or certainly the judge didn't feel she did, nor do her subsequent comments suggest it). Maybe if she did I would have a different opinion. [/quote]
 
MrMan said:
I do to be honest because in many of these cases the celebs are nothing more than young girls themselves.
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Yes - that is true.

MrMan said:
We supposedly adopt an attitude of rehabiltating offenders and when someone actually does manage to not re-offend then they should not be continually beat with the same stick for years to come.
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I think the 'showed no remorse' aspect of the report on her court case irked people, I dont think that 'managing' not to re-offend is something someone should be applauded for, not violently attacking people is the norm rather than the exception in civilised society.

MrMan said:
What she did was a minor offence that shouldn't colour the rest of her career.
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It was probably more minor than reported, although the womans eye looked nasty.

MrMan said:
I think the sexploitation of girls is a much more worrying aspect of celebrity.
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Yes and no. An equally worrying aspect I would have thought.
 
Re: 'Plenty of people have done things they regret'...she doesn't regret it (or certainly the judge didn't feel she did, nor do her subsequent comments suggest it). Maybe if she did I would have a different opinion.
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Well that was my comment so I still was generalising what you said. If she cried crocodile tears and mad a sobbing apology all would be forgiven then?

I think the 'showed no remorse' aspect of the report on her court case irked people, I dont think that 'managing' not to re-offend is something someone should be applauded for, not violently attacking people is the norm rather than the exception in civilised society.
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Its a bit of a stretch to go from letting something go about someones past indescretions and applauding them for not reoffending, I never even suggested that to be the case.
 
Its a bit of a stretch to go from letting something go about someones past indescretions and applauding them for not reoffending, I never even suggested that to be the case.
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I understand - I misinterpeted your comment.

Maybe she needs to get out and do some good stuff publicly (charity work etc), for people to let go of her past - she seems to make column inches for things like marrying a footballer, his affairs, her latest tattoo etc - all fluff.
 
truthseeker said:
I understand - I misinterpeted your comment.

Maybe she needs to get out and do some good stuff publicly (charity work etc), for people to let go of her past - she seems to make column inches for things like marrying a footballer, his affairs, her latest tattoo etc - all fluff.
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I'd say the X-Factor is something along those lines, I would imagine she will be the nice supportive one and warm to the public that way.
 
I fell around the place laughing at the gentle natured church co-ordinator who said that it was through music and singing he experienced God - and then went into a weird sort of gay, porno moves routine of Bootylicious - brilliant.
 
truthseeker said:
I fell around the place laughing at the gentle natured church co-ordinator who said that it was through music and singing he experienced God - and then went into a weird sort of gay, porno moves routine of Bootylicious - brilliant.
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haha, and after auditioning he sprawled back on the floor lifting the mid section up and said 'who wouldn't want to look at that' wonder what church he's part of and if he's the only member :)
 
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