truthseeker
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Because the GPs/staff go to the person presenting the symptoms and not the person going to the GP.
The fact that this ramble interchanges tamiflu with vaccines leads me to conclude it's all bull.
In the first case begin by correctly reading what's been posted.There's so much wrong with it I honestly don't know where to begin, plus it'll probably get pulled anyway under the terms of the site.
Ad-hominem attacks are far less effective than you'd think...Sometimes it's better to get your scientific understanding from actually being involved in science rather than websites for fellow paranoid conspiracy lovers.
Ah - thats interesting, so only house call doctors are taking swabs then?
I would imagine that would skew the figures a lot, its very expensive to have a house call.
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No it doesn't, it quotes 4th Estate reports that Tamiflu is being combined with other measures to treat Tamiflu-resistant strains of the virus.
In the first case begin by correctly reading what's been posted.
In the second case its the mods call and I'm happy abide by their decision.
Are you suggesting that the "letting off steam" forum is the wrong place for a rant?
Ad-hominem attacks are far less effective than you'd think...
Your comment seems to be based on something other than what I wrote.
This is being done openly, not secretly, and its an issue of incorrect reasoning.
The report came from CBS and the other issues were widely reported in the papers.
I stated that there is limited empirical testing of a cocktail of measures which could do more harm than the virus itself.
I stated that the current evidence of an epidemic rests on limited availablity of hard evidence that there is a significant risk or significant incidence.
I cannot recall hearing one independently verified confirmation that a person who alleged died of swine flu actually died from that disease, as opposed to one of these apparently innumerable and ill-defined "underlying causes".
There are two simple questions to answer.
1. Are these deaths due to swine flu or not?
By all accounts its not an immuno-suppressant, so why can't the cause of death be definitively stated to be swin flu?
2. Are the proposed "cures" or "preventative measures" safe or not?
Nobody seems to know and yet our country has spent millions on them.
FWIW
ONQ.
"it'll probably get pulled anyway under the terms of the site"
- Latrade in post 956922 employing wishful thinking instead of reading and responding to a post
You're right, it makes more sense to have someone presenting the symptoms of a rapidly transmissable virus go to an area where you have other members of the public waiting. It also makes perfect sense to have them go to the same place where you have the very people who are at risk from serious complications waiting to see the GP.
Why, those doctors and stuff just don't know what they're talking about. They're just forcing a malingerer's charter on us.
you sound like one of the dream customers for the 'culture of fear' makers - simply believe everything you are told, like the rest of the sheep. I bet you you were terrified when they said bird flu could, if it escaped into the west, could wipe out millions. And you ask who's hyping it? Have you not seen the news, media reports for the last 6 months. I actually seen one report that said that half the worlds population could catch this. Half the worlds population !! Needless to say i had a good laugh at that. You probably cried.
Here's an idea, why don't we all stop going to gps full stop - let them diagnose everything over the phone sure.
I have no doubt in this country people are phoning their gp to say they have flu-like symptoms to get a week off work. And i'm sure its happening in big numbers.
I asked how he knew he had it. The GP diagnosed him with swine flu over the phone.
You sound like one of the dream customers for the 'Culture Of Fear' makers - simply believe everything you are told, like the rest of the sheep. I bet you you were terrified when they said Bird Flu could, if it escaped into the West, could wipe out millions. And you ask who's hyping it? Have you not seen the news, media reports for the last 6 months. I actually seen one report that said that half the worlds population could catch this. Half the worlds population !! Needless to say I had a good laugh at that. You probably cried.
Here's an idea, why don't we all stop going to GPs full stop - let them diagnose everything over the phone sure.
I have no doubt in this country people are phoning their GP to say they have flu-like symptoms to get a week off work. And I'm sure its happening in big numbers.
I'm in the same boat. My instinct is against.I'll have to make a decision over the next week as to whether to get our children vaccinated. We are all perfectly healthy with no underlying medical issues. Hard to know.
I'll have to make a decision over the next week as to whether to get our children vaccinated. We are all perfectly healthy with no underlying medical issues. Hard to know. I will probably make appt with my GP to discuss it.
I'm in the same boat. My instinct is against.
Here's an idea, why don't we all stop going to GPs full stop - let them diagnose everything over the phone sure.
I have no doubt in this country people are phoning their GP to say they have flu-like symptoms to get a week off work. And I'm sure its happening in big numbers.
That's what is happening and it isn't that difficult, controversial or stupid.
My one question is, how many people worldwide die from the regular flu annually?
Worldwide, I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that annual deaths exceed 100,000 all the time - sometimes more than double this.
Where did I say it was? I simply commented that it was 'interesting'.
Even more interesting is how you managed to deduce the above from my post!!
Its a full blown culture of fear storm in a teacup.
Sounds about right considering the IT article posted said normally 40,000 a year in Europe.
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