Brendan Burgess
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I am trying to follow the argument of Piotr Skoczylas of www.ILPshareholders.com
If I understand it correctly...
We think that the overcapitalisatioin is crazy, but even if we accept it.
The Group needs to raise €4 billion
The State is putting in €2.3
The shareholders are putting in €1.7 billion (the value of Irish Life)
so the shareholders should end up owning 43% of the group.
I don't think that this is correct but it depends on the structure of IL& P Plc
If I remember correctly, Irish Life were prevented from buying Irish Permanent PLC because of the 5 year rule. As a result, it was structured as a reverse takeover - so Irish Permanent PlC bought Irish Life Plc.
If Irish Life had bought permanent tsb, then Irish Life could theoretically, appoint a liquidator to ptsb and wipe its hands of it.
But Permanent TSB has an asset called Irish Life.
The shareholders don't own Irish Life. They own shares in Permanent TSB
It is a myth to say that the group is raising €4billion in capital.
The group is raising €2.9 billion in new capital. (presumably from the government) The €1,1 billion from the sale of Irish Life will be just moving it around the balance sheet.
The IL&P shareholders are not actually contributing any new capital.
If I understand it correctly...
We think that the overcapitalisatioin is crazy, but even if we accept it.
The Group needs to raise €4 billion
The State is putting in €2.3
The shareholders are putting in €1.7 billion (the value of Irish Life)
so the shareholders should end up owning 43% of the group.
I don't think that this is correct but it depends on the structure of IL& P Plc
If I remember correctly, Irish Life were prevented from buying Irish Permanent PLC because of the 5 year rule. As a result, it was structured as a reverse takeover - so Irish Permanent PlC bought Irish Life Plc.
If Irish Life had bought permanent tsb, then Irish Life could theoretically, appoint a liquidator to ptsb and wipe its hands of it.
But Permanent TSB has an asset called Irish Life.
The shareholders don't own Irish Life. They own shares in Permanent TSB
It is a myth to say that the group is raising €4billion in capital.
The group is raising €2.9 billion in new capital. (presumably from the government) The €1,1 billion from the sale of Irish Life will be just moving it around the balance sheet.
The IL&P shareholders are not actually contributing any new capital.