Yeah, let's get Thatcher over here to run the country. She did such a great job at creating a divided British society that they've been afraid to let the Tories back in for a generation after she got the boot.Public sector unions need to be taken on & defeated.
Wow, deep commentary. Got any basis for this conclusion? Would you care to explain how the 'crap public service' doesn't seem to have been a problem for the other social partners, including IBEC, SFA, farmers etc?Crap public services in Ireland can be put down to consesus in social partnership.
I've worked in both too, and my experience is the opposite. If you do have any evidence of tax/welfare fraud through nixers or just plain old fraud through expense claims, please get this to the relevant authorities to ensure that it gets addressed.I have worked in the public and private sector - in the public sector - nixers, expense claims etc are common place.
Why not compare apples with bicycles? You may not have noticed that the nature of the the transaction in public service environments is generally fairly different to Aldi or Tesco. Where there are high-volume customer service counter environments in the public service, the transaction is generally information based these days, as most of the money is done electronically. This comment reminds of Wilde's quote about people who know the cost of everything but the value of nothing.Compare the cost of transaction in such bodies with Aldi or Tesco.
Complainer, are you happy with the level of service and value for money in the public and state sector?
All good points but you also have to take into account that in the private sector I have choice. This is not usually the case in the public sector.If answering that also consider are you happy with the level of service and value for money in the private sector? When you get a plumber, buy a house, get your car fixed, buy an iPhone, go to a private dentist.
You've no choice about where you get your iPhone, as it happensAll good points but you also have to take into account that in the private sector I have choice. This is not usually the case in the public sector.
I've seen some examples of super customer customer service in both the public and private sectors.
Sorry you missed the point in my detailed answer. I'll try it another way.The original question remains - "The public sector, why is it so bad!?!?!"
Are you suggesting that on a macro level the public/state sector is as efficient as the private sector?Sorry you missed the point in my detailed answer. I'll try it another way.
The question is misleading. The public sector isn't 'so bad'. Some parts are good, and some parts are bad, just like the private sector.
But seeing as your posts seem more focused on political point scoring than actually understanding cause and effect, I'll drop out here and leave you to rant away on your own time.
Are you suggesting that on a macro level the public/state sector is as efficient as the private sector?
Since the private sector is more exposed to market forces I would think that this is not the case but I am interested in your opinion on the matter.
Agree with this. May times when trying to ring some offices, you are ringing an individuals direct number. If that individual is busy or out of the office, the call does not pass onto another person.
Are you suggesting that on a macro level the public/state sector is as efficient as the private sector?
Since the private sector is more exposed to market forces I would think that this is not the case but I am interested in your opinion on the matter.
A survey late last year found that 79% of the general public are satisfied or very satisfied with the service they receive from civil servants.
Isn't it a long, ong time since there were political appointees in anything but board level in any of these organisations?I am generalising here, but those public sector organisations who's management and in some cases employees are appointed by councillors, politicians etc. tend to be a lot worse performing than the non-policitically appointed positions where the employees are forbidden from being members of policital parties.
Here's a list of some of the worst performers:
HSE - political.
Local Authorities - political
Dublin Transport - political
Whereas better performers e.g. Revenue, are non-political.
Actually the 3rd Reich was not on a full war footing 'till late in the war, unlike the UK for example. But anyway, I do not think that the public sector should be run like the private sector in as much as it should not be expected to make a profit but it should be run in a way that maximises the returns from tax payers’ money. It should also put the customer (the general public) first and not the people who work there. There are basic rules that should apply to the public and private sector.Again, I think this is the wrong question. Efficiency on its own is not a good measure. I'd hazard a guess that the 3rd Reich was very efficient (see Godwins Law).
Well then I will take my custom elsewhere if I feel I don't get good value in the private sector. Can I stop paying my taxes if I feel the public sector is wasting my money?If answering that also consider are you happy with the level of service and value for money in the private sector? When you get a plumber, buy a house, get your car fixed, buy an iPhone, go to a private dentist.
You can certainly vote for change every five years or so, which is probably similar in effectiveness to 1 AIB account holder switching their account.Well then I will take my custom elsewhere if I feel I don't get good value in the private sector. Can I stop paying my taxes if I feel the public sector is wasting my money?
The bottom line is that for the customer is that they have greater control over the services they consume from the private sector but that choice is very limited (if at all) for services consumed from the public sector. By the way I am not suggesting that everything be privatised I am just pointing out that the point made by diarmuidc is valid. The bottom line is that while some private sector businesses may be as bad or worse than anything in the public sector these businesses are not funded by tax payers money and are not the sole provider of public services to those tax payers. Therefore comparisons are not relevant.You can certainly vote for change every five years or so, which is probably similar in effectiveness to 1 AIB account holder switching their account.
"similar in effectiveness" Are you joking? I don't believe I have to actually spell this outYou can certainly vote for change every five years or so, which is probably similar in effectiveness to 1 AIB account holder switching their account.
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