The Emigration thread

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but then, I did emigrate for 10 years and came back and have no intention of going again. grass is not always green on the other side
 
So I heard today of another friend emigrating. It seems that the people who are leaving are those with potential. Wealth and job producing people.
Ah yes, the "brightest and best" :rolleyes:....................:rolleyes:
 
Chris trust you to to set up your own scale! What's the difference between 2.7 & 2.8 ? More snow on the ski slopes? Only kiddin :D

Hehe. Actually I should be a bit more pedantic or accurate and say that it's 2.75, just to show that I'm not quite a 3 yet, but very close.
 
Ah yes, the "brightest and best" ....................
Not necessarily.

Just those that have the best chance of getting Ireland out of the mire. People who want to work and better themselves and are willing to take risks. They mightn't be the brightest or the best.

Unfortunately, they are being held back by the Irish government and their dire, defeatist policies.
 
No 5 - London, second time emigrating only this time it's better.
 
emigration thread

On a good day it's 0, on a not so good day(of which there will be more to come) its a 4...

daithi
 
I would say I am a 2.7. I have done substantial research into my options and have been in contact with friends and former colleagues who are now living abroad. I am employed and my job is reasonably safe, so my main concern is taxation (income, VAT, DIRT and CGT). If it wasn't for my one year old daughter I believe we would already be a 5. Having a baby is also impacting where we are looking to go, as we want to be in a position where my wife doesn't have to work to make the transition easier. We have narrowed things down to Hong Kong and Switzerland. From a standard of living point of view and income and taxation, both are about the same, but the latter is the favourite from a distance to home point of view and the skiing.

Hi Chris,
Im in Zurich (with 2 children) so if you and your wife have any questions feel free to pm me. I lurk a fair bit here.

I suppose given that Im in Switzerland I should be a "5" but I actually left during the boom and not because of the recession. So I dont really count.
 
Yesterday we borrowed €52,000,000 to keep the country going. Today we will borrow a further €52,000,000 and tomorrow we will borrow €52,000,000 more. At least the people emigrating do not have to pay this back.
 
Yesterday we borrowed €52,000,000 to keep the country going. Today we will borrow a further €52,000,000 and tomorrow we will borrow €52,000,000 more. At least the people emigrating do not have to pay this back.

Indeed,and this means less people here who pay tax, who have to carry the burden..
I would go if I could..and will go when I can.
 
Don't forget that even at the very height of the "boom" 35,000 Irish people were emigrating each year.
I believe emigration is not just good, but great for Ireland, many will return and create employment and almost all of the others will make frequent trips back bribing Ames strain of tourist income.
The only negative part is that a lot of current emigration is forced by peoples current situation, but this is short-term hopefully
 
Don't forget that even at the very height of the "boom" 35,000 Irish people were emigrating each year.
I believe emigration is not just good, but great for Ireland, many will return and create employment and almost all of the others will make frequent trips back bribing Ames strain of tourist income.
The only negative part is that a lot of current emigration is forced by peoples current situation, but this is short-term hopefully


I would be inclined to disagree with you. Ireland down through the generations has had a history of emigration that is until the celtic tiger emerged. Now we all know even that was a false boom built on unsustained levels of easy credit. Emigration is not good for Ireland because the vast majority of those now leaving will never be able to return.
 
5.

Unfortunately I still own an apartment in North County Dublin, purchased in 2005.

I would love to wash my hands of Ireland entirely but I have a whole world of nonsense there waiting for me including keeping tenants happy, NPPR, tax returns, property management company, mortgage shortfall, negative equity etc. etc.

The people who have the right idea are those who leave for good with no ties other than friends and families. How I wish I could say that.
 
Yesterday we borrowed €52,000,000 to keep the country going. Today we will borrow a further €52,000,000 and tomorrow we will borrow €52,000,000 more. At least the people emigrating do not have to pay this back.

Nope, instead, their taxes will be used to fund budget deficits in whatever country they may be living in, (eg USA), or bailing out their banks (eg UK and RBS etc). Don't forget the 26% rise in water rates in parts of Australia this year on top of 18% last year and 23% the year before that.

I do have a concern that people are being naive in thinking it is better anywhere else but Ireland. Maybe it is but every country has it's issues and people need to be go into emigration with their eyes wide open
 
5, but left during the last recession. Had always planned to go to the USA when qualified but changed by meeting my OH. Glad we're in a modern European country with great healthcare, infrastructure, schools, social services. We can afford to come home, in fact as each day goes by it becomes more affordable but our lifestyle and choices are too good and the healthcare system in Ireland in particular scares the living daylights out of me. Plus everyone is telling us we'd be mad to come home. Love Ireland, love being Irish and planning to send the kids back to secondary school there (boarding) so that they too feel Irish. But with the way FG are handling things (same old, same old) not so sure. Lack of hope. Voting for hope and no hope. (Vincent Browne in the SBP article last Sunday is a case in point)
 
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