The Cloyne Report & the Vatican.

Simple oldnick - see the post from RMCF re school entry for children. I would imagine this is the only reason for remaining in the church for an awful lot of people.
 

Post of the year for me. The bit in bold made me laugh too!
 
Simple oldnick - see the post from RMCF re school entry for children. I would imagine this is the only reason for remaining in the church for an awful lot of people.

Thats probably the only reason I remain one tbh.

I would say that 95% of people my age that I know personally do not attend church, except for weddings, funerals, baptisms etc. Not weekly.

And could you blame them?

I still technically am an RC, but in name only. I have lost nearly all respect for the organisation and their hypocrisy. And I would bet that it has for most of the younger generation. Its only my parents generation that are still keeping it afloat imho. Once they are gone, the CC is gonna face their day of reckoning around here. OK so they might branch out in the likes of Africa but they have really burnt their bridges in this country, and their downfall cannot come soon enough.
 
On the other hand why should anyone give up their reiligion just because of the people in charge. The church comprises everyone not just those with the funny outfits.

If I was strong catholic I'd be well piddled off with people who are dragging its name down but your faith is your faith. It need not be affected by the actions of others.
 
Great post Old Nick, really funny and well written. It made me laugh as well.
I’m half way to being a Protestant Atheist; I’m an atheist
If I did believe in God (the Christian one) then I’d be a protestant (some soup, if it was going, would be a bonus).
 
Yeah, but if you get you information from the Simpsons (and I do), Catholic heaven is more fun than Protestant heaven.
Remember the episode when Homer was swaying towards catholic and he was shown the two different heavens. The protestants were on their cloud playing croquet whereas the catholics were drinking, fighting and then all joined together to form a large riverdance routine.
 

Yea, good point (and yes; that's my main source of information as well).
 
Ian O'Doherty and Complainer agreeing on something!
I don't know which one of them would be more upset
 
I’m half way to being a Protestant Atheist; I’m an atheist
If I did believe in God (the Christian one) then I’d be a protestant (some soup, if it was going, would be a bonus).
Disconcertingly, I find myself entirely in synch with Purple on this, and yet I suspect my arm would have to rot off my arm before I could place a 'X' next to the name of a Fianna Fáil candidate.

Where does that leave me?
 
oldnick, what was it they used to say about de Anglicans, RC's without a Pope or somethinglike that . Have to say the smells, bells and lovely music of a latin mass are hard to beat., if, like me you like all that. But I just switch off for the sermons etc. I did attend a Baptist Christmas service once, it was lovely. And in winter I often go to St Pat's for a nice Sunday Evensong.

I must say tho that the RC Church should really be considered it's members and not the ruling elites. I have no particular gripe with most RC churchgoers. They are believers like anyone else. All they, and all the Churches, mosques etc need to keep in mind is that religion is a private matter. There should be a clear delinieation between it and society. I don't think any religion should run schools, that's the states job.
 

Didn't they call catholics who coverted during the famine "Soupers"? Bet it wasn't that freeze-dried muck ye get these days
 
Didn't they call catholics who coverted during the famine "Soupers"? Bet it wasn't that freeze-dried muck ye get these days
It goes back to the salvation army giving soup to people who converted AFAIK
 
How come these Bishops are still allowed to be patrons of schools? If it were any other organisation, there is no way it would be allowed.
 
...probably because bishops have had a lot of experience with little children.
 
...probably because bishops have had a lot of experience with little children.

Harsh! I am not religious at all but I do have sympathy for all the genuine catholic priests and bishops. Just like I sympathy for genuine teachers of Islam when they all get called terrorists! I remember when my dad died the comfort that my mam got from her faith. I was jealous that she had it. She is now a huge critic of the church. That to me is the biggest shame of all this. Not only have victims been treated like crap but ordinary Catholics have had their faith destroyed.