JoeRoberts
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Like a dog chasing a car trailer the government don't know what to do when they get there after their great big men talk of the past few months. . Now they trying to start to restore some diplomacy.
Virtue signalling after all the anti-Israeli/pro-Hamas guff from him over the past 12 months.
Was the intention to do this publicised at all?
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If you can dig up a single quote of him saying anything pro-Hamas I'll be astonished.Virtue signalling after all the anti-Israeli/pro-Hamas guff from him over the past 12 months.
It’s the one sided condemnations.If you can dig up a single quote of him saying anything pro-Hamas I'll be astonished.
Extract from MM statement to the Dail in October 23. One sided condemnations??Virtue signalling after all the anti-Israeli/pro-Hamas guff from him over the past 12 months.
I'm pretty sure that they roundly condemned the events of October 7th 2023 at that time.It’s the one sided condemnations.
Hamas started the current conflict.I'm pretty sure that they roundly condemned the events of October 7th 2023 at that time.
Since then what we've mainly seen is Israel bombing Gaza to bits.
What is it, 90% of the population, who've lost their homes and been forced to move many times?
Almost every school, university and hospital has been destroyed.
There are innumerable videos of Israeli soldiers delighting in the destruction they are wreaking on civilian infrastructure, putting on women's underwear in houses as they loot them etc etc.
Israel is letting in only a fraction of the aid people need.
Israeli Government ministers making openly genocidal statements all the while.
Not to mention that a sizeable number of the Israelis who lost their lives on October 7th were killed by Israeli Apache helicopters as they implemented the Hannibal Directive and the fact that the mass rape and babies burned in ovens allegations have no evidence to support them.
What we have seen is evidence of rape and torture of prisoners by the Israelis, including the killing of doctors, the deliberate murder of a University professor for a tweet and the use of Palestinian civilians as human shields.
And you complain of one sided condemnations.
What is there to balance all that, condemnation-wise?
Hamas started the current conflict.
Hamas tried to end this phase of the conflict many times, even as far back as 2023.Hamas could have ended the conflict any time they wanted by releasing the hostages and surrendering.
...Hamas use their people as human shields.
Gaza is well less than half the size of Ireland's smallest county, Louth, yet it has since 2023 been subjecting to bombing greater than the combined total that London, Hamburg and Dresden received in WW2. The human shields accusation is zionist propaganda to excuse their genocidal intentions, similar to the accusations that Hamas had command and control installations under Al Shifa Hospital.I haven’t heard him condemn Hamas for using their own people as human shields.
Hamas were elected back in 2005. So by that yardstick Bertie Ahern speaks for us.And finally Hamas do speak for the people of Gaza. They are the elected government of Gaza. They’ve murdered all the opposition but they still enjoy the support of a far larger proportion of their population than their counterparts do in Israel.
Both Hamas and the Israeli government are barbaric fundamentalist lunatics who have no regard for the civilian population of Gaza
Saying something is something doesn’t make it so.Gaza has been described as a concentration camp or a prison for decades going back well into the last century.
Except through Egypt until the current land invasion by Israel.No one nor nothing can enter or leave Gaza except with the permission of Israel.
Using the phrase Zionist in a pejorative way like that could be seen as bigoted. Anyone from anywhere who supports Israel’s right to exist is a Zionist.That's a siege as and sieges are an Act of War.
Implying that this all began on 7/10/2023 is simply repeating zionist misinformation.
Was that before or after they started this round of the conflict by murdering 1400 people?Hamas tried to end this phase of the conflict many times, even as far back as 2023.
I’m sure they have. The current Israeli government is barbaric and propped up by extremist religious fundamentalists who think they have a mandate from heaven to ethnically cleanse Gaza and the West Bank. Just like Hamas think they have a similar mandate from their god to do the same think to the people of Israel.It's Israel who've repeatedly blocked attempts to negotiate a permanent ceasefire and hostage release
Again with the pejorative use of the word Zionist. Do you think that Israel has the right to exist at all? If so you are a Zionist. If not you are an advocate for genocide.The human shields accusation is zionist propaganda to excuse their genocidal intentions, similar to the accusations that Hamas had command and control installations under Al Shifa Hospital.
Really?What is actually the case however is that Israeli soldiers use Palestinian prisoners as Human Shields as a way of dealing with booby trapped buildings and the like.
Is Bertie still running things and still enjoying wide popular support? No? Okay then it’s not an apt comparison at all.Hamas were elected back in 2005. So by that yardstick Bertie Ahern speaks for us.
So now you’re accusing me of racism but that’s not even close to the point I made. I was talking about the governments, not the population. There are lots of protests in Israel against the government and what they are doing in Gaza. There are none in Gaza because Hamas are murderous fundamentalists, even Hezbollah think they are crazy, who murder their opposition and oppress their own people. That said, judging by the reaction of the people of Gaza to the October attacks and the way in which random people treated the (probably) dead body of a 19 year old German girl the population are supportive of the actions of Hamas.That's a common western trope when talking about non-white people. I believe that the top US General in Vietnam said something similar when confronted about the heavy civilian death toll in that war. Those people aren't like us, they don't mourn their dead as deeply as we do.
Of course they did. Hamas thought the barbaric attack on October 7th would make them heroes in Gaza and that all Israel would do would seek a "proportionate" act of revenge. Under that playbook Hamas envisaged their standing in Gaza greatly enhanced and would copper fasten their stated right to carry out similar heroic spectaculars against Zionist* civilians in future.Hamas tried to end this phase of the conflict many times, even as far back as 2023.
Trying to keep this on topic ...Saying something is something doesn’t make it so.
The blockade that failed to prevent Hamas building a tunnel network as big as the New York subway system? I’d day it has had a profoundly negative impact on the people of Gaza but that’s what happens when you elect genocidal terrorists to run your country.Trying to keep this on topic ...
How would you describe the status of Gaza as it has existed since say 2006 when Israel tightened the blockade considerably?
The blockade that failed to prevent Hamas building a tunnel network as big as the New York subway system?
You say that Hamas are genocidal terrorists but it's Israel who are actually carrying one out.I’d day it has had a profoundly negative impact on the people of Gaza but that’s what happens when you elect genocidal terrorists to run your country.
Israel should have got out of both Gaza and The West Bank a long time ago.What do you think Israel should have done? Given that Hamas are as uninterested in a two State solution as the crazies currently running Israel and have the destruction of Israel, no matter what the cost is to their own people, as their overriding goal.
It's none of her business. She's an ambassador from an Apartheid, ethnic cleansing, murderous regime.I see that the Israeli ambassador has asked president Higgins not to speak at the national Holocaust memorial event here due to his anti-Israeli and antisemitic statements. I have more than a little sympathy for her views.
So is the government of Gaza. No to mention the UAE, China, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, etc.It's none of her business. She's an ambassador from an Apartheid, ethnic cleansing, murderous regime.