State Pension (UK) for those who worked in the UK

[Leper]

Hi Marc, Thanks for your post and previous posts but yours is concerned with people who were born after 1953 only (as per the link). But, the thread is interesting for anybody who has not yet retired or reached the age of 60. There is confusion about the subject (sorry to say this for the umpteenth time). I think Gerry Canning's post is along the lines of Marc's too. I know both of you and earlier posters want to be helpful, so do I.

Just to reiterate, the Irish government of a few years ago approached the UK government regarding Irish people who worked in the UK during the 1960's and 1970's (we're not talking about the 80's or later). Favourable terms were agreed in which some (if not all) of the Irish who worked in the UK and subsequently returned to Ireland would have entitlement to a UK state pension. I am informed these terms did not exist for all non UK nationals in the same situation. This was a special arrangement for Irish people.

The Dept of Health and Social Security (UK) wrote to all Irish nationals at their last known address who might qualify. Most of these letters were never delivered to the addressees as they had left the UK. A window was held open until last March (2015) in which affected Irish people could claim Old Age and Retirement Pensions from the UK. The "ladder" has since been pulled up since, but the DHSS will look on future applicants on a case by case basis. Probably all the new applicants will be in their 60's now and if your parent(s) or anybody you know worked in the UK back then who are not in receipt of a UK state pension, should immediately claim.

 

[moneybox]

Have you a link for the above Leper?

 

[moneybox]

I wonder if its the Graduated Retirement Benefit you are referring to although it's not specifically for the Irish. http://www.rights4seniors.net/content/other-state-pension-payments

I have searched and search and can't find no reference anywhere to the statements you are making above.

 

[Leper]

Have you a link for the above Leper?

Sorry I don't have a link.

 

[moneybox]

Hi Marc, Thanks for your post and previous posts but yours is concerned with people who were born after 1953 only (as per the link). But, the thread is interesting for anybody who has not yet retired or reached the age of 60. There is confusion about the subject (sorry to say this for the umpteenth time). I think Gerry Canning's post is along the lines of Marc's too. I know both of you and earlier posters want to be helpful, so do I.

Just to reiterate, the Irish government of a few years ago approached the UK government regarding Irish people who worked in the UK during the 1960's and 1970's (we're not talking about the 80's or later). Favourable terms were agreed in which some (if not all) of the Irish who worked in the UK and subsequently returned to Ireland would have entitlement to a UK state pension. I am informed these terms did not exist for all non UK nationals in the same situation. This was a special arrangement for Irish people.

The Dept of Health and Social Security (UK) wrote to all Irish nationals at their last known address who might qualify. Most of these letters were never delivered to the addressees as they had left the UK. A window was held open until last March (2015) in which affected Irish people could claim Old Age and Retirement Pensions from the UK. The "ladder" has since been pulled up since, but the DHSS will look on future applicants on a case by case basis. Probably all the new applicants will be in their 60's now and if your parent(s) or anybody you know worked in the UK back then who are not in receipt of a UK state pension, should immediately claim.

Leper - Have you heard back from the relevant Department to back up these claims you made??

 

[Marc]

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[Leper]

Leper - Have you heard back from the relevant Department to back up these claims you made??

Yes, and the situations is per my post of 11th January - sorry for not amplifying. I should have been more mindful when posting and people who worked in the Uk from the 1980's are not affected.. It was the people who worked in the UK during the 1960's and 1970's only who were obliged to claim by March 2015 for "more beneficial treatment."

 

[moneybox]

Yes, and the situations is per my post of 11th January - sorry for not amplifying. I should have been more mindful when posting and people who worked in the Uk from the 1980's are not affected.. It was the people who worked in the UK during the 1960's and 1970's only who were obliged to claim by March 2015 for "more beneficial treatment."

Thanks for that, as the information can't be verified through appropriate links, it has to be taken as heresay until proven otherwise.

 

[Fisherman]

Popped in here rather than start a new thread......
I worked in the UK for the first 20 years of my working life and am entitled to a partial UK state pension ( verified by uk Pensions dept.).
I will be entitled to claim the UK pension when I'm 65. However, as I have been working in Ireland since leaving the UK, I am told I must make my claim from the Irish pension's dept. As I wont be entitled to an Irish state pension until I'm 66, how do I go about claiming my UK entitlement from Ireland at age 65.

 

[Gerry Canning]

Fisherman ,
You can make your claim directly to Uk ,
. this has Nothing directly to do with ROI dept.
If in doubt check www.hmrc.gov.uk on what to do.. Follow their instructions.

Moneybox,
I worked in UK in 1970,s , I will get small uk pension for years worked .
From reading UK new rules , the CATCH is number of years worked/credited in UK.
Unless you have a minimum of 10 years worked you are NOT under the new rules entitled to UK pension (as of right).

If in DOUBT write to hmrc pensions Newcastle to ensure you have 10 years +.
There is still opportunity to (buy) years to get over the 10.

If anyone private messages me , I will mail them what I have if it helps.

 

[Fisherman]

Gerry, I contacted UK pensions. Situation is....I can only claim pension in one EEA country ... They told me to contact Irish pension dept in Sligo.
Contacted Sligo and they said they will send me an appropriate form to complete and return to them. As I understand it, I will get the UK payment at age 65 and on reaching 66 will then get a full Irish state pension.

 

[moneybox]

Gerry, I contacted UK pensions. Situation is....I can only claim pension in one EEA country ... They told me to contact Irish pension dept in Sligo.
Contacted Sligo and they said they will send me an appropriate form to complete and return to them. As I understand it, I will get the UK payment at age 65 and on reaching 66 will then get a full Irish state pension.

That is correct you have to go through Sligo to get your english pension if you are living in Ireland

 

[Gerry Canning]

Found an informative site on (new) UK old age pensions .

Google .

How much state pension will I get ?Which.co.uk

 

[moneybox]

Another very interesting link
https://www.gov.uk/check-state-pension
Not sure if it will work in Ireland but anyone interested in getting their UK state pension statement can phone +44 (0)191 218 3600.
Also now might be a good time to check and see if one is eligible to pay eith class 2 or class 3 NI contributions for any missing years. Class 2 are cheaper however, the government will be abolishing them in 2017 so people need to act quickly to avail of the cheaper rates. https://www.gov.uk/voluntary-national-insurance-contributions/who-can-pay-voluntary-contributions.



Lots of people who contracted out of the State's second pension during the 70's 80's and 90's are very disappointed with the new state pension rates. Although the NI rebates were paid into a private pension, the returns of many of these products are dismal to say the least. People who did contract out are losing an average of £1 for every year but its very difficult to work out exactly how much as they use a complex calculating system.