I'm not saying pensioner's shouldn't spend but the state pension is welfare at the end of the day
i fully accept it wont happen , the government caved in over wealthy pensioners and medical cards circa 2009 , they arent going to reduce the state pension no matter how bad things are
It is absolutely not welfare under any stretch of the imagination.
How would somebody that has made no PRSI contributions qualify for the State (Contributory) Pension?thats only true for a minority of recipients , the majority of recipients draw down a lot more than they put in during their working lives in PRSI , then you have recipients who hardly put in anything and in some cases nothing at all
Currently they don't as far as I know.How would somebody that has made no PRSI contributions qualify for the State (Contributory) Pension?
How would somebody that has made no PRSI contributions qualify for the State (Contributory) Pension?
Not necessarily if you make an assumption of tax-free growth over 50 years like with a private pension.....most who are in receipt of the contributory state pension will draw down a lot more than they made on contributions
I think people get a little over anxious about these things.
I've been hearing about the pension crisis for decades.
Ultimately, the purpose of government is to distribute income fairly.
As more and more capital accumulates in the hands of fewer and fewer people, the state will have to intervene more aggressively to ensure everyone has access to sufficient capital. In particular, as labour becomes less rewarding or less necessary.
It's far more likely that, in the future, universal basic incomes will be the norm.
Can you point me to anything to back this up?most who are in receipt of the contributory state pension will draw down a lot more than they made in contributions
Can I ask if your not going to start a pension for fear that a personal pension might disqualify from the state pension
What are you going to do with the excess income that is not been invested in a pension ???
if the total SI contributions are less than the actuarial cost of providing a contributory state pension, then it is both a handout and charity.It is not by any means a hand-out or charity.
It is in some cases. Under the old system, if someone made ten successive minimum SI contributions (€500 PA) from age 56 to 66, they would get a full contributory state pension.It is absolutely not welfare under any stretch of the imagination.
I disagree.All payments by the state are "welfare" to some extent in that they transfer money collected from taxes to recipients.
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