"Southern Ireland"

Iran is an interesting case, their Supreme leader decides who can run for office but he is appointed by the guardian council who are themselves elected by the people so from a constitutional point of view it is less of a theocracy than the UK. It also has a politically irreconcilable constitution but that's a different matter. There was an excellent article in the New York Times recently about it.
Does anyone know if the head of state (Monarch) in the UK still promises to oppress the evil of Catholicism in his or her coronation oath?

Most of the myths and legends that are considered English such as the Arthurian legends are in fact Cornish or Welsh so it could be contended that the cultural origins of Britain are in not English at all.
 
If I recall correctly the use of Eire got up the nose of a judge in the past too. I thought I read many years ago that a UK extradition warrant was thrown out for using Eire and that the Judge indicated Eire was only correct if the document was in Irish, for a document in English the correct name of the country was Ireland.

The only supporting link I can find alludes to an (unnamed) Supreme Court judge expressing his annoyance at the practice but no indication if it resulted in the case being chucked out.

http://www.emigrant.ie/article.asp?iCategoryID=200&iArticleID=38184
 
the Judge indicated Eire was only correct if the document was in Irish, for a document in English the correct name of the country was Ireland.
Does this mean that article 4 of the constitution which uses both Éire and Ireland is incorrect? Or perhaps you are simply mistaken in your recollections?

Does anyone know if the head of state (Monarch) in the UK still promises to oppress the evil of Catholicism in his or her coronation oath?
For what it's worth there's nothing about it here anyway.
 
For what it's worth there's nothing about it here anyway.
Have a look at PDF. While the oath is not expressly anti Catholic it looks like it is designed with their dpecific exclusion in mind.
It seems a bit nuts that a constitution that is secular in practice can be built on such bigoted crap.
 
Most of us nordies call ye free staters 'Mexicans' ye know.

know that dundalk was referred to on the bbc as ' el paso'
but then south armagh is know as bandit country.
which is where I am going shortly to get some home heating oil.
 
Have a look at PDF. While the oath is not expressly anti Catholic it looks like it is designed with their dpecific exclusion in mind.
It seems a bit nuts that a constitution that is secular in practice can be built on such bigoted crap.
What constitution? The UK doesn't have one - at least in writing whatever about through royal and legislative precedent.
 
What constitution? The UK doesn't have one - at least in writing whatever about through royal and legislative precedent.
They don't have a written or sovern constitution but they do have one, as you point out, through legislative precedent. See here for details.
 
Back in the 1980's and my C.B. Radio days, despite giving out my address correctly to People in England they would always put N. Ireland on the envelope.
 
Well, I get a magazine posted from London, with the last line reading 'Irish Republic'. Can an adjective be used to describe a republic?
 
Can an adjective be used to describe a republic?

Bob Geldof used a piece of fruit to describe the republic once ( banana republic ). At least we do not have to call it the Peoples Socialist Republic of Ireland....not yet anyway.
 
Does this mean that article 4 of the constitution which uses both Éire and Ireland is incorrect? Or perhaps you are simply mistaken in your recollections?

Perhaps though the article I quoted does at least back it up partially to the extent that the judge at least had an issue with it (of course the article could be wrong too I'd prefer see the court transcripts for a definitive answer). There was the same year as the article refers to where the Judge stated a case would be thrown out for using "Republic of Ireland" (this piece does not make it clear what would happen if Eire was used) perhaps this is what the article refers to.

The article of the constitution you quote does indeed use both terms but explicitly says the name of the state is Eire or in the English language Ireland. In the context of the paragraph could that not imply that Eire is therefore the Irish language name and that the use of Eire in the English language translation is for informational purposes? I'm not a constitutional lawyer so maybe I'm reading too much into it.
 
Can an adjective be used to describe a republic?
Sure, an adjective can be used to describe a republic.

from wiki:

In particular I like the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela!
 
Thanks bond-007 - I wonder if Niall Ferguson should be reminded that things changed in 1922. One would have thought that an historian would have kept up to date, unless that is a contradiction in terms!
 
There is no Celtic period in Irish history. There was no mass migration of Celts to Ireland, it's a myth.
"Irish" and "Ireland" are also recent inventions. Descendants of those that built Newgrange probably
have fair claim on being the real native Irish. The more of the original genetic material you have
the more Irish you are, by that measure.

http://vetinarilord.blogspot.com/2005/12/y-chromosome-variation-and-irish.html

If there was anyone here before the Ice age they were presumably driven out by that extended cold snap.
 
remember at school the teacher banging on about some tribe call the 'tuath na danann' or something like it anyway. maybe they were irish?
or was it the old 'fir bolgs' ? obviously they died out as there was no 'mna bolgs'