Majority of smokers I know have had very few smoking related illnesses. I smoked for 17 years and the worst smoking related illness that I had, if you could even call it that, was the flu.
In relation to the taxes I paid, I'm pretty sure most of that would've been used on non smoking related issues! I don't know what you mean in this part "You may have paid tax relating to smoking but have you paid enough to provide adequate beds to enable all service users to acquire a hospital bed in Winter?"
Are you suggesting that every smoker should pay enough in taxes so that everyone who uses the hospital should be paid for? And why just winter, what about summer?
You say you covered your hospital stay in taxes, yes, YOU probably did, but lots of smokers could have multiple hospital admisssions or out-patient attendances, squeezing out other hospital users, thats what I mean when I say some smokers are using the system more than non-smokers but we are all paying the same tax.
I dont understand this - if people are in the next garden smoking, how does this stop you from using your own garden or opening your windows/patio doors? At most all youd get would be a very diluted whiff of smoke in the air?
Presumably you also wont use your garden or open your windows/patio doors if they have a BBQ?
Come on, truthseeker, we all know about the health related problems from smoking. They supercede all the other stuff by a long stroke. Just go into a daytime A&E in mid-Winter, the majority of cubicles will be occupied by people who have smoking related symptoms.You could say the same for alcohol related illnesses, people who drive dangerously and cause accidents, people with eating disorders, drug addicts, extreme sports enthusiasts who are always breaking something, people who refuse to see a doctor until something simple becomes something serious, people with mental health issues.......
Plenty of people who have never smoked have multiple hospital admissions, out patient attendances. Should we marginalise against people with mental health issues for example because our own minds are 'healthy'? Ive never needed to go for a psychiatric stay - so why should my taxes pay for those who need it?
Come on, truthseeker, we all know about the health related problems from smoking. They supercede all the other stuff by a long stroke. Just go into a daytime A&E in mid-Winter, the majority of cubicles will be occupied by people who have smoking related symptoms.
You obviously don't understand the revulsion to cigarette smoke that many people have. Cigarette smoke stinks. And it clings for a long time. It is horrible. And we get it in stereo.
+1, cigarettes are so replusive to me, i'm very sensitive to the smell.
if my OH comes home from a night out (he doesn't smoke but would socialise with friends who sit in the smoking areas in pubs) the clothes need to be washed straight away. I hate the smell it leaves on cloth and furniture.
it seems to be only smokers who think that if they open a window or spray deoderant that the smell will disappear.
it clings to clothes, skin and hair and i hate it.
OP you should open the windows in your office on a freezing cold day and say it's because of the smell.
I'd make no apologies for hating it!!
I ran this across a smoker in the pub later and he informed me that he wished that non-smokers would leave smokers in peace because everytime he goes to the smoking shed out back it is full of non smokers on the passion-prowl.
You say you covered your hospital stay in taxes, yes, YOU probably did, but lots of smokers could have multiple hospital admisssions or out-patient attendances, squeezing out other hospital users, thats what I mean when I say some smokers are using the system more than non-smokers but we are all paying the same tax.
+1 on thatSo really the thread is about noisome odours that offend the olfactory sense? Why stop at just the smokers? I've shared offices with farters and burpers (from high consumers of garlic/onions). I've had female coworkers who can't seem to last 40 mins without a liberal sheep dip of some celebrity brand of marketed cat urine perfume poured over them and the office or a can of deodarant every 10 minutes.
And of course the folks who believe that personal hygiene is the devil's work and therefore the only Christian way of life is to stink like a Chilean Miner's jocks all day every day.
People stink, a lot.
People stink, a lot.
I didn't see any posts that fit this description. Can you tell me which posts you are referring to here?Although some people here are also complaining about smokers smoking outdoors in the next garden and thus spreading their illness and disease about - as opposed to just their smell.
I have a next-door-neighbour who smokes on the doorstep at all hours of the day - i can smell it when lying in bed in the morning, hate it.
In a way they are like lepers, they are spreading illness and disease via their smoke, it's not just themselves that they are harming.
You've selected bits of Mel's post and put them together in a different context. His point about illness and disease was not in the context of people smoking outdoors in the next garden.
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