Why should they get redundancy at all - they are not being made redundant, they are simply reverting to a lower level role in the same organisation. They are still employed by the same organisation
Jnr Ministries (and indeed all Ministries) are not permanent roles. They are akin to being given a stretch assignment or temporary secondment role in many organisations. You are given a trial period, and then if it doesn't work, back you go to your previous role, on your previous level of pay.
That's all that happened these guys. They should just revert to their previous roles (TD) with their previous T&Cs ... no extra payment at all.
Absolutely agree with this. And as for John McGuinness loudly proclaiming to the media that he's dividing his payment up between the four staff who will lose their job because of his demotion, he omitted to mention that one of these is his own son.