Running business from council house

janeferguson said:
These people can afford to have a house of their own
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Without access to all their financial records, how can you possibly know this.

In any event, it is totally irrelevant to any grounds for complaint.

You still haven't said what type of enterprise it is or if it is generating hazardous waste, noise or disruptive traffic.
 
janeferguson said:
These people can afford to have a house of their own. You are incorrect income is assessed annually
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From what others have said, it is a lifetime tenancy. So if their income is assessed annually, their rent will have increased.

It is irrelevant if they can afford to buy a house now. It matters if they could afford to buy a house at the time of the initial assessment. People living in council houses doing well for themselves isn't something new. It has always been that way going back to when I was growing up. People weren't kicked out of their homes then and they won't be kicked out now.

In fact, you can say that it is good for the country as a whole. I would much prefer to see someone getting a council house doing well for themselves and their family instead of giving it a generations of the same family who contribute nothing to the country but just take benefits. At least the people doing well for themselves are paying taxes and the chances of future generations living on benefits is reduced.
 
janeferguson said:
Also probably needs planning
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Many home businesses do not require planning, traffic and impact on surrounding neighbours is often a consideration there. If you believe that planning is required to run the type or scale of business taking place, then submit a complaint to the planning section of the local authority who will investigate.
 
janeferguson said:
It's in the tenancy agreement which they sign to. Also probably needs planning
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Why are you refusing to state the type of business they are running.

Why is their nationality a problem for you?

Are you a legal expert in relation to terms and conditions of a tenancy agreement. Remember, a rule applies to ALL tenancies. Would you have the same issue if the people were Irish? - judging by your postings, I doubt it.

If you delve into the "homeless" figures, you will get the absolute shock of your life. Its not what the lefties and far right nutters want you to think.
 
janeferguson said:
It's in breach of tenancy agreement and also planning. In my opinion they are taking houses from the homeless so when you are homeless you can applaud them
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Here's the "homeless" report from May.
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/5bffc-homeless-report-may-2024/

That gives standard figures.

The end of year report gives a breakdown of nationality
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/9f3eb-homeless-report-december-2023/

A previous report even broke it down further and had Irish travellers as a individual group (represented 19% at that time)

Also, don't make the basic error of mixing "homeless" with "rough sleepers". They are two very distinct groups. All "homeless" are in hotels, b&b's, family hubs or hostels. Rough sleepers generally have deep and complicated issues and have huge supports available and most have a preference for sleeping rough. If you assist for a few nights with one of the council's outreach team, you will see the empathy they receive, but also see the many issue they have. If you do volunteer for a few night you will also be told that these are adults and unless they are a danger to themselves, you cannot force them into accommodation.
 
DannyBoyD said:
We can't claim you have an ulterior motive as you are quite clear and unvarnished about your, in my opinion deeply unpleasant, motivation.
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One of the families going to Poland for the summer. As that's is worth mentioning one issue may be that they are foreigners, coming over here and taking "our" social housing.
 
Steven Barrett said:
From what others have said, it is a lifetime tenancy. So if their income is assessed annually, their rent will have increased.

It is irrelevant if they can afford to buy a house now. It matters if they could afford to buy a house at the time of the initial assessment. People living in council houses doing well for themselves isn't something new. It has always been that way going back to when I was growing up. People weren't kicked out of their homes then and they won't be kicked out now.

In fact, you can say that it is good for the country as a whole. I would much prefer to see someone getting a council house doing well for themselves and their family instead of giving it a generations of the same family who contribute nothing to the country but just take benefits. At least the people doing well for themselves are paying taxes and the chances of future generations living on benefits is reduced.
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I want to disagree with that but I can't.
 
Lots of people qualify for social housing at a point in their lives and circumstances change. Isn’t that the point of it?

Eg a single parent on benefits… goes to college gets a decent job etc. Should they have to move as soon as supply of council houses dictates that it’s needed for someone else? That makes no sense.

As for relocating in the summer, so what? Lots of people go home for holidays. What’s that got to do with a lease? Remote working, terms time working etc all facilitate easy long periods abroad.

The OP believes that they aren’t entitled to the house because they are working. That’s nonsensical
 
Annieindublin said:
Eg a single parent on benefits… goes to college gets a decent job etc. Should they have to move as soon as supply of council houses dictates that it’s needed for someone else? That makes no sense.
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If we want to allocate the States assets in a manner which helps those most in need then that's exactly what should happen. The problem is that if we do that we create yet another poverty trap.
The solution might be to remove the cap on council rents.

I also disagree in principle with lifetime tenancies but if one is granted the tenant should have to pay property tax and they should be liable for damage caused through error or neglect.
 
I can see the need to provide more housing, and the solution is probably higher rents and putting the money into more housing stock. I don’t think forcing families to move is a good solution for society, having to move house as a punishment for getting a decent salary will not be a great incentive. Changing schools etc is not a great idea for building stability.
 
Annieindublin said:
I can see the need to provide more housing, and the solution is probably higher rents and putting the money into more housing stock. I don’t think forcing families to move is a good solution for society, having to move house as a punishment for getting a decent salary will not be a great incentive. Changing schools etc is not a great idea for building stability.
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I agree but what happens when a single person is in a 3 or 4 bedroom council house, a apartment suitable for their needs is available nearby and a family is in emergency accommodation that needs the house? Should State assets be used to provide the greatest social good?
 
In the ideal world people would be encouraged to downsize during their lives. If estates were planned with that in mind there would be a mix of housing so that could happen. A lot of (not all) people would happily move to a 2 bed unit in exchange. An acquaintance of mine has been trying to do that for over a year. But Dun Laoghaire aren’t helping her, they don’t seem to care. Her garden is too much for her to manage, she finds her 4 bed house expensive to run. They agreed in principle but are so slow. They have one bedroom apartments available and it’s all agreed in principle.

It shouldn’t be necessary to force people to move, there are better ways to achieve the goals. Incentives shouldn’t be too hard to work out. And if it’s built into the original housing terms it can be enforced if necessary
 
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