RTE presenters salaries

Good Morning Leatherarse,

Just noticed that Geegee has gone qt, is it a fact that he copped on or is he one of the thieves of his bosses time.
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I fail to see what hope to achieve by goading. You appear to have a serious problem with my point - could it be that you yourself are one of the second rate presenters?? Either that or, no offence, you have a serious computation problem. I will now addressyour points:

1. You have still not named names so you are a cowardly begrudger.
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If you check back I addressed this - see "litigious society"

2. Cop on, anyone who make it big are always unknown before they make it big.
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Exactly my point - the overpaid presenters here are already "big" so it would be highly unlikely that they would go elsewhere and start from scratch on a paltry salary.

3. I am not as thick as you think (hellllloooo) Russia is only two miles from Canada and either are not led by each other
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This really takes the biscuit. In case you hadn't noticed the de facto situation is that Ireland is part of the British Isles with a similar culture. All of the institutions are based upon the English system - the Gardai and the legal system toi name but two.

It is nothing short of incredible to analogize Russia and Canada; again, in case you hadn't noticed, Canada is part of the West and Russia part of the East. Canada is Democratic and, up until relatively recently, Russia was Communist. In post WW II history, they have had no shared culture, ideology or political system.

For further information, try an internet search under "Cold War" , "Communism" or "Socialism".



4. You complain about paying your over inflated TV licence and getting scant reward, yet you are paying over inflated tax to inept politicians yet you do not complain. What is your gripe with RTE were you sacked by them... I think so.
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Can I not complain about one thing without mentioning absolutely every conceivable gripe I have? I really do think your last line was either in jest or simply a silly attempt at goading again.


5. Why make accusations when you cannot back these up with facts.
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What facts do you want? If you contact RTE they will provide you with salary figures. Again, if you do some research, you will not find many alternative job opportunities at the same salary level in Ireland. EAMONN66 has put it in a nutshell.


Merry Christmas to you and your family,

gg
 
Re: Whatever.

Actually you did. In response to his complaints about RTE not about the license itself, you responded...

Actually I didn't. I said that he (and others) could do this whereas you claimed that I said that they should. No doubt I'll be accused of engaging in semantics here but anybody who can't see a qualitative difference in these two statements could benefit from remedial English classes in my opinion.

He never said he didn't want to pay the licence.

Again I never claimed this. I just suggested a course of action that could be taken by people who felt so strongly about the license that they might decide to avoid paying it altogether.

There's no need to get stroppy. It's christmas. Go back and read what HE actually said before you made a knee-jerk comment about what you thought he said.

I must admit that I can get stroppy when people persist in ignoring the precise details of contributions to a discussion and attempt to veer off into inaccurate interpretations of what was stated. I fully understood what he originally said and have tried to explain to you above how my responses fit in with this. It would help if you read carefully what I said and not jump to erroneous conclusions. Christmas is no excuse for dispensing with adherence to the facts of the discussion...
 
Whatever

Actually I didn't. I said that he (and others) could do this whereas you claimed that I said that they should.
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Actually you said.

why not ditch your TV receiving gear and legitimately stop paying your TV licence.
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I know it's a few years since my remedial English classes but that sounds like a suggestion to me.
My apologies if in my stupidity I misinterpreted.

I just suggested a course of action that could be taken by people who felt so strongly about the license
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This thread wasn't about the license. In fact you were the first person to mention the license.

I fully understood what he originally said and have tried to explain to you above how my responses fit in with this.
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If you say so. I really don't care anymore.

-Rd
 
How much is anyone's work worth?

What is the value to society of that person's work? It's obviously worth as much as (approximately) 6 hospital consulltants; or 11 of me; or (god knows) 65 junior chefs/road sweepers/whatever. All these inflated top-end salaries do is widen the gap between rich and poor.
Personally I can't stand the man and turn the radio off when he comes on, so my estimation of his social value is very little. How popular is he in listenership?
 
Re: Whatever

I know it's a few years since my remedial English classes but that sounds like a suggestion to me.

Ah - the penny drops. It is indeed a suggestion, something that leaves the ultimate decision up to the recipient of the advice, and not the same as telling somebody to do something done.

My apologies if in my stupidity I misinterpreted.

Fair enough.

This thread wasn't about the license. In fact you were the first person to mention the license.

geegee mentioned "tax payers' money" and "the public purse" so it seemed logical to me to include the license fee under those headings.

If you say so. I really don't care anymore.

Don't get stroppy. It's Christmas! :p
 
Geegee, far from being second rate I would be regarded as first rate, as the ratings prove.
Not all presenters are highly paid. There are many who are around for a long time and are quite happy to work for the salary they recieve. They dont begrudge their higher paid colleagues one cent. The majorityof the higher paid worked their way up the ladder and were once part of the lower paid presenters.
Ireland is not part of the British Isles, part of it does remain in British hands and we all know why, and granted a lot of our laws and ways are British influenced , but in our constitution we are a 32 county republic.
I dont need a lesson in history , as I spent enough time studying it in Uni studying it and teaching it afterwards.
Geegee methinks you would have made a good presenter and perhaps you could have been on quite a good salary now, perhaps some day you will, anyway Nollaig Shona dhuit agus ath bhlíain faoi mhaise dhuit :)
 
Leatherarse,

Geegee, far from being second rate I would be regarded as first rate, as the ratings prove.
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Ahaa! Which one would you be then? Not GR by any chance? That would explain why you were so vehement in your defence of your/their position.

Not all presenters are highly paid.
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Are any on less than a six figure salary or at least the high fives? If not, they are grossly overpaid in a marketplace where they have virtually no alternative opportunities. This is inverted market forces - high salaries are only paid where it is necesary for staff retention.

Ireland is not part of the British Isles,
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Ireland is part of the British Isles, not politically of course, but geographically, yes. It is therefore quite right to refer to it as part of the British Isles.

part of it does remain in British hands and we all know why
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This sounds ominous! As far as I know, as a layman, it is because the democratic majority says it should - but do you know otherwise?


Regards,

gg
 
I have to agree with GeeGee there. What he / she says is true. I think RTE presenters are very overpaid in a distorted marketplace. RTE has very little of quality now, it has gone down a lot over the years.
 
think RTE presenters are very overpaid

In comparison to what? Do other TV and radio broadcasters etc. divulge indiviual presenters' salaries so that comparisons can be made?
 
"In comparison to what? Do other TV and radio broadcasters etc. divulge individual presenters' salaries so that comparisons can be made?"


In comparison to what they are worth. In a free marketplace, RTE would not pay its presenters as much as they could not afford to, as they would not have such a big subsidy from the license payer. Also, some presenters salaries in the US and UK may be more, but these countries have much, much, much bigger populations.

While Gerry Ryan for example is a good broadcaster and presenter, and good luck to him, he does not have a very difficult job compared to some people who are paid a fraction of what he is. We have to listen to him going on about his holidays / breaks to New York / South Africa / Paris / Orlando / Dromoland Castle the whole time , plus his freebie concert excursions with his buddies in the business etc. He presumably has a sickness plan and a pension from RTE. Yet he complains about his "work". If only some others I know were that lucky in life. I know others in RTE who are overpaid also.
 
In comparison to what they are worth.

How do you assess this? Perhaps RTÉ do it in relation to the advertising revenue attributable to individual presenter's programme slots among other things?
 
Yes, but RTE is massively subsidized by our high TV license fees, which we have to pay, even though many of us watch ITV, BBC, C4, SKY etc instead most of the time.
Ah well, it could be worse. Happy Xmas.
 
Is our license fee really that high by international standards? I see that the [broken link removed] is GBP£121 which is about €172 in comparison to . (Curiously enough the UK still also offer black & white licenses for GBP£40.50). I'm not sure what the norm (if any) is across the rest of Europe although, having seen public broadcasting TV in several European countries, I certainly appreciate the quality of RTÉ's output a bit more even if there may be room for improvement.

By the way, anybody who is dissatisfied with RTÉ's output or other aspects of its operation can presumably do something constructive about it by providing feedback and comments via the Audience Council.
 
This site is an excellent exposition on why the TV tax should be abolished. It was posted by fangs on the PreBudget forum.

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Looked at objectively then, the current TV licence system is a terrible waste of time, money and personnel. Since it applies to almost everyone in the country, it would be just as fair to make a single, simple appropriation from the Exchequer at budget time, paid directly into RTE's coffers.
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Clubman,
Peoples attitude to RTÉ goes back a long way. I find the most virulently anti-RTÉ people are those who had to endure one channel land in the sixities and seventies. Those of us who had to endure one channel land still had to pay the full tv tax. Over in multichannel land people were able to enjoy the uk channels with no ads in the case of BBC.

With respect to RTE presenters salaries, my view is that its a free market and that presenters contracts will reflect the commercial climate prevailing at the time of renewal. In the same way I have no problem with the Roy Keans earnings, I have no problem with Pat Kennys earnings. When the day comes that either of them fail to perform then their contract comes to an end and they are no longer paid.

ajapale
 
Many posters seem to be forgetting the fact that a free market does exist in this business today. Look at Dempsey & Darcy who jumped ship to Today FM. Look at all those Irish presenters who have ended up in the UK or further afield (Amanda Byram, Liz Bonnin, Emma whatshername from MTV a few years back). The free market exists.

Most of the RTE presenters do a decent job most of the time. Gerry Ryan & Pat Kenny are great radio presenters, though I'd avoid any TV appearance of either like the plague.
 
You mention Today FM - is it subsidized by the license payer, like RTE is ? No, it is not a free market , while RTE enjoys these govt. type subsidies.
 
I'm not sure I get your point Rabbit. Care to expand?

I contradicted myself by watching the RTE Top Hits of the 80's fronted by the great Gerry Ryan. Fascinating show - at times, I felt that some of the clips of real RTE TV from the 80's were like the more surreal moments of Fr Ted, e.g. the Castlebar International Song Content ('live from the Travellers Friend'), the Garda recruits in uniform playing 'Whiskey in the Jar' from Bibi's show live from Templemore, the 'Housewife of the Year' competition etc etc. Only Nighthawks came off with any credit.
 
Geegee, sorry, I was away for a short break, thanks to a generous sponsor (one of my perks) we all get little perks in our jobs. There are a quite a few with mid to high five figured sums in their salaries, especially with the rural stations. I didn't put a gun to my employers head to get the figure I am on,...it was offered and I accepted, I guess they thought I was worth it. I would like to take this opportunity to publicily thank all the Irish people for the part they play in supporting our National media as would some of my journalistic colleagues in the print media.
Thanks Geegee.
 
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RTE Top Hits of the 80's would have been just as entertaining (or not) without Gerry at the helm, what made the program interesting or not was the clips. Gerry's twopence worth was irrelevant and, in my opinion, annoying. Still, at least I've said he was worth twopence.
 
GR

I calculate that at 650k p.a., what with monstrous summer breaks, it comes out at 2k per hour - not even Monica could earn that much.
His so called breakfast show is positively lewd when it comes to reviewing the daily rags - he doesn't seem to progress beyond page three - notice how his breathing gets a bit heavier.
 
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