Roy Keane ?

While I agree we shouldnt just be happy to be there, at the same time we were 4 -0 down, we were out, there was nothing to be done about it and then the fans started singing. They're out there having a blast, they decided to 'make a name for themselves' and while you might say it smacks of the usual defeatism, need-to-be-liked etc, I thought it was a thank you to the team for getting us there after so long, even if it didnt go well when we got there. So well done to the fans, its not their fault the team cant kick snow off a rope.
 
Roy Keane could not care a fig whether the Republic qualified or not. He didnt achieve much as a manager himself. However, he has an excellent football mind. His playing days are over. Perhaps he will continue in management? One way or another Roy has learned that saying something controversial gets him a nice little earner and more television exposure. It is the oldest television pundit trick to boost viewing figures. That is all it is. Mr Dunphy will probably say something controversial next.

The television people cannot afford to lose their audience, bottom line to thinking people. Incidentally, fair dues to the travelling Irish fans, they gave and continue to give an excellent account of themselves. Let's be honest, most of us knew the Rep of Ireland had little chance of qualifying from the group stage.
 

After Saipan, Roy Keane has lost the authority to make any comments on the Irish players performances at this or any other tournament. AT LEAST THEY ARE OUT THERE PLAYING FOR THEIR COUNTRY!
 
2 x dismal performances - so do what next? ... why lets keep the same lineup against Italy then - have a sing song and hope for the best - sure that'll be grand won't it!
 
ninsaga said:
2 x dismal performances - so do what next? ... why lets keep the same lineup against Italy then - have a sing song and hope for the best - sure that'll be grand won't it!
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Why shouldn't the fans have a sing song? What do what them to do? A silent protest in the stadium? Noone is saying the results and the performances are good enough and noone is saying that the same 11 players should be playing but are you really suggesting that the fans should turn against the team. I was at matches at the end of the McCarthy and Staunton reigns and they were ugly matches to attend as the fans weren't slow about showing their displeasure. Only reason they are not doing it now is that they appreciate the efforts of the team for getting them there in the first place. They are right to stay with them until the end. The post mortem can start tomorrow.
 
Liamos said:
After Saipan, Roy Keane has lost the authority to make any comments on the Irish players performances at this or any other tournament. AT LEAST THEY ARE OUT THERE PLAYING FOR THEIR COUNTRY!
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True. He is still entitled to an opinion though. Same as every other tv and armchair pundit. He also put in some performances in an Irish shirt that don't deserve to be forgotten about because of what happened in Saipan.
 
It is worth mentioning that Holland (2010 world cup finalist, ranked 4th in the world, seeded number one for their group ahead of Germany) are out of the competition having lost all 3 games.

Sunny's point re: Mick mcCarthy is right. He did a good job with Ireland but the fans were quick to turn on him after two defeats for the 2004 euro qualifying. We didn't even make it to the play-off position again until Trap became manager. Ireland's performances have been disappointing no doubt, but people have to be careful what they wish for.
 
Shawady said:
It is worth mentioning that Holland (2010 world cup finalist, ranked 4th in the world, seeded number one for their group ahead of Germany) are out of the competition having lost all 3 games.
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Their fans were a disgrace as well. Didn't even sing once during the last 20 minutes when it was obvious that they were going out, having woefully underperformed for the entire tournament!
 
ninsaga said:
2 x dismal performances - so do what next? ... why lets keep the same lineup against Italy then - have a sing song and hope for the best - sure that'll be grand won't it!
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What the fans do or don't do won't change the result.
It's hard to listen to Roy Keane; he's a bitter whinger who's never said a gracious thing in his life.
 
Sunny said:
True. He is still entitled to an opinion though. Same as every other tv and armchair pundit. He also put in some performances in an Irish shirt that don't deserve to be forgotten about because of what happened in Saipan.
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Look, he was one of irelands greatest players, and I certainly remember all of his great performances.

But how can he seriously ever criticise a player wearing an irish shirt after he walked out on his team (country) when they needed him most?

And how can we take his comments seriously?

Like i said he has lost his authority to comment because of Saipan.
 
Liamos said:
After Saipan, Roy Keane has lost the authority to make any comments on the Irish players performances at this or any other tournament.
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Oh good ! Is is time for yet another raking of the Saipan coals ?

AFAIK, Roy Keane made these comments in a column for a red-top tabloid. What do you expect, insight, analysis, lowest-common denominator polemic ?
 
Liamos said:
After Saipan, Roy Keane has lost the authority to make any comments on the Irish players performances at this or any other tournament. AT LEAST THEY ARE OUT THERE PLAYING FOR THEIR COUNTRY!
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That's the kind of logic that only sport can produce. We wouldn't have been talking about Saipan without Roy, because we wouldn't have made it there.
 
Purple said:
What the fans do or don't do won't change the result.
It's hard to listen to Roy Keane; he's a bitter whinger who's never said a gracious thing in his life.
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Try listening more then and not just reading the headlines.
 
TarfHead said:
Oh good ! Is is time for yet another raking of the Saipan coals ?

AFAIK, Roy Keane made these comments in a column for a red-top tabloid. What do you expect, insight, analysis, lowest-common denominator polemic ?
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Actually he made them on ITV on live television.
 
DB74 said:
Their fans were a disgrace as well. Didn't even sing once during the last 20 minutes when it was obvious that they were going out, having woefully underperformed for the entire tournament!
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Fair play to the irish fans for singing. There is more important things in life than football. They went over to have a good time and just because Roy Keane can't take a drink anymore he shouldn't begrudge others having a good time.
Rumour has it he is on the short list for the managers job at Birmingham so maybe it will be third time lucky to instill his winning mentality into his management career.
 
MrMan said:
That's the kind of logic that only sport can produce. We wouldn't have been talking about Saipan without Roy, because we wouldn't have made it there.
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Still doesnt take away from the fact that he walked out on his team when they needed him.
 
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