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If I'm not a tax resident, then I'm not liable to pay tax.But if you've no Irish income then you're not liable to pay tax here, so what interest have you in a double tax agreement?
That's not how it works.If I'm not a tax resident, then I'm not liable to pay tax.
I mean specific to DIRT on a Raisin account?That's not how it works.
If you're non-resident, you nevertheless are liable to pay Irish tax on Irish source income.
Did you read my previous post?I mean specific to DIRT on a Raisin account?
Yes it made an allusion to, "probably should", and showed how to do it.Did you read my previous post?
Sigh... your original post was asking how to get a letter of tax residence. Subsequently you asked how to become tax resident. My suggestion (file your deposit interest income via myAccount) is a concrete step in that direction. But, yet again, you seem determined to refuse to take on board useful advice posted here. In which case, why post these questions here in the first place? I give up...Yes it made an allusion to, "probably should", and showed how to do it.
But my question was, if I'm not a tax resident or have no such status, am I in actual fact OBLIGED to do so.
Woah woah woah, I appreciate your responses certainly, but let's not put the cart before the horse.Sigh... your original post was asking how to get a letter of tax residence. Subsequently you asked how to become tax resident. My suggestion (file your deposit interest income via myAccount) is a concrete step in that direction. But, yet again, you seem determined to refuse to take on board useful advice posted here. In which case, why post these questions here in the first place? I give up...
Seems to be a couple of issues here. The double tax treaty and the certificate of tax residence.I was trying to get a letter of tax residence to avail of the double tax agreement between Ireland and Latvia, therefore open a deposit interest account through Raisin.ie
However, contacting revenue they claim they have no record of my paying taxes.
See I have worked in Ireland, but only part time at a much younger age, and just recently returned from years overseas where I lived since graduating college.
What can I do in this situation?
My eyes are burning after reading this thread. Why are you trying to demonstrate Irish residence? If it’s to get paid interest gross on an overseas Raisin account and you’re non-Irish domiciled, the Limitation of Benefits provisions of the Treaty may deny you Treaty benefits and render this whole excrement soup a waste of time. Basically, in layman’s terms, you can’t avail of Treaty benefits if you’re not paying tax in your country of residence.
Yes, that's as I understand it.Seems to be a couple of issues here. The double tax treaty and the certificate of tax residence.
if you want to use the double tax treaty between Ireland and Latvia, this implies that you are resident in 1 country and have paid tax in the other country too. So, you will want to claim a deduction on say your Latvian tax return, for any Irish tax paid. So, then you avoid double taxation In both countries.
in terms of Revenue proving your Irish tax residency, they can never 100% confirm a persons residency for sure. Most people are fairly straightforward- they pay PAYE, run a business here, submit Irish tax returns etc., so high likelihood they meet the residency threshold of >183 days living in Ireland (280 over 2 years). Though, it’s always possible they might have travelled a lot in a year and breached residency. Not sure how Revenue could ever evidence you’re resident - they have no proof of it in terms of stay, paying recent taxes and you don’t really have any income, so why does it matter from a tax point of view.
So why don't you file a return of DIRT tax as I suggested several times?1st - yes, I'm trying to demonstrate Irish residence so I don't have to pay 20% withholding tax in Latvia, in addition to 33% DIRT here (40% if I'm late filing the return according to revenue).
I wouldn't.2nd - "paying tax", I assume refers to PAYE tax? Not DIRT being automatically taken from savings/deposit accounts in Ireland.
Would anyone agree?
The reason I questioned this was because, I mean...... the tax is taken already.So why don't you file a return of DIRT tax as I suggested several times?
Yes but, it's already taken.I wouldn't.
DIRT is Deposit Interest Retention Tax.
So DIRT paid/retained at source is a tax paid by the interest bearing account holder.
Yes. Lol.The reason I questioned this was become, I mean...... the tax is taken already.
Filing a tax return on tax already taken? Lol.
Interest from accounts in other European Union (EU) Member States and from non-EU countries
If you receive interest from an account in another EU Member State, you must pay the current DIRT rate on the interest income. You must include the details of this on your annual tax return. The income will be subject to a higher rate of 40% tax if it is not returned on time.
I do.I don't get this "eyes are burning" and "verbal soup" comments -
Okay, perhaps I see where the confusion is arising.Yes. Lol.
What DIRT rate is applicable?
Deposit Interest Retention Tax is deducted from the interest paid on all deposit accounts held by Irish-resident individuals.www.revenue.ie
Okay, perhaps I see where the confusion is arising.
I don't have any overseas/Raisin accounts at the moment.
I have only every in my life paid DIRT to Irish revenue from an Irish account, so it was taken automatically.
Again, I have no deposit interest coming in from a non-Irish account currently - and I don't think I can file a tax return on an Irish account that revenue have already and automatically deducted DIRT from.
How do you declare DIRT?
You must include any deposit interest you received in your Income Tax Return. You need to enter the total interest payment before the deduction of DIRT.
The type of return you must complete depends on whether you are registered for self-assessment or are a Pay As You Earn (PAYE) worker.
"Form 11" means self-assessment via ROS.I was just checking my revenue dot ie account for "form 11".
I can't actually find it.
Most welfare payments are assessible for income tax.Just out of curiosity, those who are in receipt of state payments and are exempt from tax on said payments, how do they ever register as tax residents? (or do they?)
I still don't understand why you don't try what I suggested several times - file a myAccount "Form 12" return with details of your deposit interest income.I'm going over and above in attempt to file a tax return on a meagre amount of money whilst basically living the student life (breadline status).
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