Easy there big fellasweeping statements like lets put all provo licence holders off the road is complete nonsense, how would the public transport system cope with all these people, how would people who had to move out of the city get to work without cars?
Speed restrictions for newly qualified, inexperienced, drivers is an entirely reasonable suggestion.speed restrictions is also rubbsih, if these lads are willing to drive at 100mph plus as it is do you think they will just go "oh i better slow down now they have lowered the limit?" hardly.
Not everyone drives on the limit, I often do less than the allowed limit. It's maybe an unlikely and/or dramatic example, try 3 tractors; taking my suggestion they would be R drivers not L's and if they were properly taught then each would leave enough space to the car in front for others to safely pass.What about the full licence holder who is driving from dublin to cork on the n8 and gets stuck behind 3 L drivers driving 80kmh, he speeds up and overtakes them, risky? you bet and when a family is wiped out because someone was held up for 20 minutes behind a Learner what are we going to do then.
Agreed, many roads are terrible. Who want to force inexperienced drivers onto back roads?look at the dreadful n6 road from kinnegad to rochford bridge (plenty more like that too) we are going to expect our most inexperienced drivers drive something like that and force them off the dual carriageway, that will really lower deaths alright
On the off chance that you are referring to my previous post as 'knee gerk' I'd clarify that my thoughts on the issue are long held and have nothing to do with the tragic events in Monaghan.5 young lads sadly lost their lives however knee gerk reactions are no what is called for, a more visable garda presence on the roads, they dont need to be doing speed checks, their mere presence makes people think twice. Better roads, and education
I doubt if any have - people have not lost their licences for this speed though, and in fairness, on a motorway, chances are this is not dangerous driving.In the past month how many driver have walked away from court without penalty points, because 150kph wasn't 'dangerous driving'.
Agree completely.We should introduce a learner permit, no instructor = no driving! No driving on main roads unless as part of your lesson, limit the engine size for the first 1-2 years, automatic blocking of insurance if caught driving without the legally required instructor / qualified driver, automatically retake test if involved in any accident within the first 1-2 years of getting the test.
For driver with current licenses they should also be made to retake their test if found to have committed motoring offences, and as above no license = no driving!
I wonder how many of the 17 year olds killed on the roads this previous week were learner drivers
How would Garda enforcement stop five young lads playing chicken at up to 150km/h on an isolated country road?
I agree, I too am a learner driver and am sick of the attitude of "fully qualified drivers". What about full licence holders who never sat a test in their life.
Also if you notice that the majority of these road accidents are on country roads which might suggest the poor condition of these roads as well
Learner drivers are not the only problem and drink driving is a probably a huge factor in many cases, but the problem with learner drivers is one thing that can be easily tackled, and (I hate to admit it), but I'm in favour of minister cullens plans on this one.Hasnt anyone noticed that most of these fatal accidents are at weekends usually friday night saturday mornings and saturday nights sunday mornings.
Drink driving and I know this for a fact. Its not about L drivers. They are just the scapegoats.
LEARNER DRIVERS ARE SCAPEGOATS FOR A DIFFERENT PROBLEM - DONT BE FOOLED BY POLITICIANS OR BY TOP GARDAI WHO AFTERALL ARE PROMOTED BY THE DAIL MEANING IF THEY ARE NOT YES MEN THEY WILL NOT FURTHER THEIR CAREERS.
My friend in Australia learned to drive recently and they have a system similar to that of pilots etc in that you have to have x amount of driving time under your belt before doing your test - I think it was 120 hours driving time, this seems like a much better idea then letting anyone out on the roads. Another thing that really really annoys me is an upside down or back to front L plate - How in the name of god can you master the rules of the road when you can put a feckin sticker on your car the correct way!
Another thing that really really annoys me is an upside down or back to front L plate - How in the name of god can you master the rules of the road when you can put a feckin sticker on your car the correct way!
Or the little cut out L like how in gods name are you a ment to see that
Which means that I would need to go out and buy another car. We have one family car, which is a 1.4l hatch. That's hardly a racing car.Newly qualified drivers should of course display R plates and amongst other things be restricted to a 1.2L car and a max. speed of 80K/H for 2 years. All vehicles should be electronically limited to 130K/H.
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