A 10% cut in the workforce would be better. Should be targeted at areas where there are cuts in programmes thus meaning the people working on them have no work to do. Should also be targeted at those areas who have lost the run of themselves in recent years and need reform.
I think you'd have to wait till next week (or even January) to see the finer details and comment on the pros and cons. My first reaction was that it coulda been worse, but then I chastised myself for being so easily manipulated.It is understood the main elements of the emerging agreement include:
- Agreement on changes, work practices, productivity in Health, Education, Local Authorities and The Civil Service (including non-commercial State Bodies).
These changes would involve 8-8 shift rosters, staff mobility and flexible work practices.- Savings - according to a number of union sources the savings package is of the order of €1bn and this includes an effective pay cut of 12 days next year for public sector workers.
The balance of the savings, €300m, would be achieved by the Government implementing the report of the Review Body on Higher Remuneration, the accrued savings from the implementation of the embargo on recruitment, and the reduction in numbers as a result of the incentivised leave scheme.- Unpaid leave - it is understood a separate document dealing with the issue of unpaid leave is being finalised.
This will focus on how the 12 days unpaid leave would be implemented without impacting on the delivery of public services.
Done and dusted by the looks of it.
These threads have context?Oh no it is not. This thread is on where Next 4 Years saving from the Public Sector are going to come from!
These threads have context?
Does all this mean that the health agreement reached this morning still stands? Or was that conditional?
+1000000000000000while i'm thoroughly bored with the issue, i think today's developments are good in the long run, hopefully it means the government is at last going to grasp the nettle. There's no room for bs anymore, give us teachers, nurses and guards on the front line and take a knife, nay hatchet, to the layers and layers of management who dont seem to be able to deliver services or keep to budgets.
There'll be little sympathy for strikes, and i think the mood of "the ordinary people of ireland" will filter through in the end
[i'll admit up front that i'm totally anti-union, think its day is done, now a joke shop]
so I'm reckoning there will be more strikes. What will happen to me if I want to work on a strike day? Having already taken one unpaid day I don't intend on taking any more!
Now with talks broken down - I am going to apply for the shorter working year on Monday.
I'll try & do a short training course with FAS or something.
I don't agree with strikes & I pulled out of the union recently.
I will try and take 6 weeks unpaid & I have a few weeks holiday.
I am fed up with work colleagues persistany thinking they are victims and hard done by.
Many have a big sense of entitlement.
i fully agree.....it was good to see cowen faceing down the unions ,maybe he is finally growing a pair .....lets hope next wednsday he hits the PS where it really hurts....in their more than ample wagepackets!While I'm thoroughly bored with the issue, I think today's developments are good in the long run, hopefully it means the government is at last going to grasp the nettle. There's no room for bs anymore, give us teachers, nurses and guards on the front line and take a knife, nay hatchet, to the layers and layers of management who dont seem to be able to deliver services or keep to budgets.
There'll be little sympathy for strikes, and I think the mood of "the ordinary people of Ireland" will filter through in the end
[I'll admit up front that I'm totally anti-union, think its day is done, now a joke shop]
lets hope next wednsday he hits the PS where it really hurts....in their more than ample wagepackets!
you're in a better financial position than a lot of your colleagues.
Well the fact that you can afford to take all that unpaid leave would indicate that you're in a better financial position than a lot of your colleagues. I know I would risk having my home reposessed if I went on a shorter working year. Fair play to you and good luck, but don't assume all PS workers are in the same situation.
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