I just wanted to point out that having an abortion is not like throwing away an old pair of shoes and can have long-term psychological effects on both parties involved.
Yes. For me this is a black and white issue. I have a consistent life ethic. Apart from abortion being the wanton taking of life it is also detrimental to the individual and to society.God, your world must be great. You know- where you are absolutely certain you are right and therefore anyone who disagrees is wrong.
Indeed, a row? Not that my views could be genuinely held?Caveat said:I believe michaelm is simply looking for a row BTW.
They might. And they'd be entitled to. But they'd be wrong.
Well posts like this don't exactly encourage open discussion do they?
I agree that abortion is not something to be taken lightly but ultimately it is a still only the 'potential' for a baby - many pregnancies end naturally before the 13 week mark, heartbeats at 22 days and brainwaves at 42 days dont change this.
I believe in choice, I dont think a woman should be forced to continue a pregnancy that could result in many peoples lives being ruined (the mother who doesnt want a child, the child who is unwanted, the relations of the mother of the child who see her falling apart through despair).
Carrying a pregnancy to term is not always a good option for everyone.
Abortion should not be used as a method of contraception, but in a modern society its a necessary evil.
I'm not religious and I don't have any warped views on "what is life" (for example, the morning after pill is not killing an unborn child), but abortion is wrong if it is done to save the parents from inconvenience.
Do you think a young girl committing suicide because she cannot cope with an unwanted pregnancy is simply someone who views it as inconvenience?
Why are you using an extreme and rare example to prove a general point?
Of course I think abortion should be considered for extreme cases like suicide (mother and child will die) or an unwanted child from a rape.
But examples like that are perhaps... 0.5% of cases? Less?
Someone not being able to go to college (or travel) because they cant afford childcare and taking a dead end job just to make ends meet is not an inconvenience, its a life change that may be so unwelcome as to be impossible to comprehend.
I agree having a child is a major issue, but is that enough of a reason to kill an unborn child? Of course not! It is not remotely close to being a good enough reason.
I understand abortion is a difficult topic, especially for people who have had abortions, but the reality is it is killing an unborn child. Seriously, just have the kid and give it up for adoption - it will be so grateful you didn't kill it. And you'll still get to live a normal life.
There is no reason not to have the child and give it up for adoption. Arguments like "but having a child will change the shape of my body" or "I don't want to have to alter my diet for 9 months" etc. are NOT strong enough to abort the pregnancy.
I agree having a child is a major issue, but is that enough of a reason to kill an unborn child? Of course not! It is not remotely close to being a good enough reason.
I understand abortion is a difficult topic, especially for people who have had abortions, but the reality is it is killing an unborn child. Seriously, just have the kid and give it up for adoption - it will be so grateful you didn't kill it. And you'll still get to live a normal life.
There is no reason not to have the child and give it up for adoption. Arguments like "but having a child will change the shape of my body" or "I don't want to have to alter my diet for 9 months" etc. are NOT strong enough to abort the pregnancy.
Sorry, who are you to decide whether a woman should carry a foetus for 9 months and then 'just give it up for adoption'?
Ultimately, this is about control of a woman's body, and I for one do not want to force women to have children they don't want.
I would agree with you IF the woman didn't have sex and somehow got pregnant. It's not like the baby magically appears - she has to have sex while she's ovulating.
Doesn't make much sense so.
They might. And they'd be entitled to. But they'd be wrong.
Do you usually generalise from individual incidents like this? I know more than one woman who has had an abortion (and some more than one) who have not been obviously unduly physically or mentally affected by it. If they have been then they hide it very well.I was not offering an opinion one way or the other; I just wanted to point out that having an abortion is not like throwing away an old pair of shoes and can have long-term psychological effects on both parties involved. My interest in this comes from the experience of the wife of a close friend who had a deep bout of depression after the birth of their first child as a result, (according to her and her psychiatrist) of an abortion she had 12 years before.
What, so she should be punished by having the state dictate what she does with her own body?
I think having to put up with being pregnant for 9 months is a reasonable compromise.
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