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Does anyone else find this, as best, Trumpian?
The election is over. The only time I remember reading about mass rallies like this in Western Europe was in the late 1920's into the 1930's.
Part of me would love to see Mary Lou getting that angry and animated.
 
Are you sure? One of the rallies is in the Hodson Bay Hotel. I don't think it will be 'massed' anything except the queue for the bar!
Seems rather quaint and traditional...

We haven't quite reached the stadium rallies and arrival by aeroplane of Der Fuhrer.
 
Are you sure? One of the rallies is in the Hodson Bay Hotel. I don't think it will be 'massed' anything except the queue for the bar!
Seems rather quaint and traditional...

We haven't quite reached the stadium rallies and arrival by aeroplane of Der Fuhrer.
Yea, but it would be great fun to watch. Will there be an edict issued about the correct language to use (no "up the RA" and nothing about not wanting darkies or queers running the country)?
 
Yea, but it would be great fun to watch. Will there be an edict issued about the correct language to use (no "up the RA" and nothing about not wanting darkies or queers running the country)?

Only family men allowed. It'll be like the 1930s again alright.
 
One thing that is very obvious (and very deliberate) from Sinn Fein since the election is the prominence of Michelle O'Neill down these ways. Clearly it's the one island, one party message they are putting forward in preparation for the border poll push.
 
One thing that is very obvious (and very deliberate) from Sinn Fein since the election is the prominence of Michelle O'Neill down these ways.

She must spend most of her waking hours on the M1, travelling to and from photo opportunities.
 
Its pretty much all they are up for IMHO. Only luvvin their "excluded victimised" status. If EVERYONE is so gagging for change why don't they round up the left and show us how its done. All pee and wind.
 
The Sinn fein anthem, "tiocfaidh ar la" , but their day did come, they got the most popular votes, now they are like This post will be deleted if not edited immediately in the garden of Gethsemane ,
"Lord, remove this cup from me, I am not ready" , I will be ready after the next election, I do not want to be crucified by the millenials, crucify those who are not worthy of thee like Barrabas Martin, I choose he to carry my cross.
 
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The opinion poll appears to show SF up to 35% FF down to 20% FG down to 18% How do the above posters explain the opinion poll showing both FF and FG lower now than on General election day,
I suspect part of the reason is former supporters of both FF/FG can see the damage both have already done by there policies and can already see the stealth wealth taxes required because of FF/FG reckless behavior ,
Tax on Wealth is the only tax the new type of FF/ FG TDs will support , I suspect most of the new TDs FF/FG were hoping to elected support more Stealth Wealth type taxes , the sad thing is FF/FG will get away with bringing them in where SF haven't a hope in hell of getting them through,

You only have to look at tax on Irish Landlords and Dirt tax along with the pension levy along with stealth taxes in the last few years to see what FF/FG can get away with once they stay together and don't rock the boat on one another ,

I think former FF/FG supporters can see they are going to be crucified 2008/10 style over and over again by both FF/FG in other words the will be picking up the bill for FF/FG Auction policies through a wealth tax brought in by which party is in power after election,
 
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Yea, but it would be great fun to watch. Will there be an edict issued about the correct language to use (no "up the RA" and nothing about not wanting darkies or queers running the country)?
Or Greens are nothing more than FG on Bicycles,
 
@josh8267 you are obviously very young, the nirvana has been promised many times before, most notably the Soviet Union, was never delivered, Russia will never return to socialism or communism again, it may return to monarchy, it may return to tzarism, but it will never return to socialism, the chinese are rapidly ditching it too, well except for totalitarianism. The dream is over, it was not a dream by the way, it was a nightmare. Karl Marx is all twisted in his grave.
 
@josh8267 you are obviously very young, the nirvana has been promised many times before, most notably the Soviet Union, was never delivered, Russia will never return to socialism or communism again, it may return to monarchy, it may return to tzarism, but it will never return to socialism, the chinese are rapidly ditching it too, well except for totalitarianism. The dream is over, it was not a dream by the way, it was a nightmare. Karl Marx is all twisted in his grave.
I am retired they question I asked was how come FF/FG are still dropping in the first opinion polls after the general election surly you don't think we had a 11% increase in young people since the 8th of Feb election,
There must be another reason, I never voted SF in my life, I would have voted for the Greens in I was in Ireland on 8th of Feb, ,It would have being the first time in my life not voting FF/FG ,because I can see there Reckless policies and refusal to do anything about them but follow SF,

I know people who voted for both FF and FG and no other party, in other words the voted for FF and FG to come together and form a government they want to hear they are working night and day putting a government together and stop pretending one has to go into opposition when the other is in government ,
FF/FG have over 43% of the first preference vote and 73 TDs at present it should not be taking them this long to find another 7 +TDs to form a government both say they understand the message the people sent them in the ballot box , I suspect people gave them a mandate and a message to form a Government if the so called center parties do not want to form a Government why continue voting for them any longer,

we should have a government in place by now,

Political Rallies are a rush to fill a vacuum left by the so called center parties FF/FG refusing to follow the will of the people and form a Government have a look at how Lemass and Cosgrave ran general Elections in the past,
 
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@josh8267 i probably got a bit carried away in the last post, sorry about that, a little alcohol on board then :confused:, you are generally correct about SF , its a wave of populism that has lifted SF, the same wave of populism that has swept across Europe that SF have successfully harvested
 
You have to go back all the way to 1977 to find the last Majority Government in Ireland First led by Jack Lynch bought with the promise of doing away with private house rates, and removing car tax for everyone ,this was the second Auction politics election in my lifetime,
The 1969 was the first auction politics election fought between Liam Cosgrave and Jack Lynch FF won it and went on to buy the next election by promising to remove house rates and car tax to get re elected,
Sean Lemass and Liam Cosgrave in his first/second general election never used taxpayers money to buy votes, It has being all downhill since FF/FG started bribing sections of taxpayers with other taxpayers money, now there is nothing left between them but spin and who can bribe the best,
 
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I know people who voted for both FF and FG and no other party, in other words the voted for FF and FG to come together and form a government

How is it you know that? Much of the membership of both parties have been very clear that is not what they voted for.
 
How is it you know that? Much of the membership of both parties have been very clear that is not what they voted for.
But you are missing something FF/FG are against political rallies (Political Rallies are for the membership which FF/FG are against)

But what about the none Members who make up over 99% of there first preference vote who are already fed up going from the first opinion poll since the last general election, do you really think the do not count,

The problem is the membership of both parties only count for a very small % of people who gave there first preference to both parties in the last general election,
just to give you an example the FG canvassers who knocked on my door were well known to me and came from the next constituency seeing I was not going to vote FG this time offered them tea and refreshments I challenged both on why they were out canvassing in my local area and no local FG members I named the local members who used to call at every election ,no longer interested was the reply I got

I go for a walk every day, sometimes I meet the local FG member who used to call at election Time ,He is the type who would dance on the ground if you mentioned FF and FG forming a coalition Government but is no longer interested in canvassing for them,you can see why the are now on 18% in last opinion poll,

Is this the kind of member FG should be listening to in 2020,
as for FF they are still sending out request to former members who have joined other parties years ago to pay there subscription as payment is long over due, Desperate for Members I suspect and now on 20% if you go off last opinion poll,

Shortly FF/FG will be telling us they are forming a coalition for the good of the Country, The fact is if they don't shortly a Coalition Government the Country will put them out of there misery for good,
 
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But you are missing something FF/FG are against political rallies (Political Rallies are for the membership which FF/FG are against)

Am I? Are they? No idea how that has any bearing on what the electorate voted for. Was it included in their manifestos?

But what about the none Members who make up over 99% of there first preference vote who are already fed up going from the first opinion poll since the last general election, do you really think the do not count,

Why is it you think so many party members did not give their first preference to a party candidate? Or are you just making up the numbers?

Any coverage I have seen of the opinions of the broader electorate has not suggested the majority went the polls demanding a FF/FG coalition as you seem to believe. What source leads you to believe that the majority of the electorate want such a coalition as their first preference?

I go for a walk every day, sometimes I meet the local FG member who used to call at election Time ,He is the type who would dance on the ground if you mentioned FF and FG forming a coalition Government but is no longer interested in canvassing for them,you can see why the are now on 18% in last opinion poll,

Ah yes, your rambling personal anecdote really does speak to to the psyche of the nation :rolleyes:
 
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