Eggball - your response is very good - its great to hear someone actually speaking from experience offering a view - i agree and 2nd your view 100%.
do you two work in pensions industry??
there are many options open to 18 year olds,
eg if have discipline to regular save, NOT in a pension,
then when so-called middle age rolls around,
the person can now access their savings AS CASH
for some life events that right now are way higher than retirement.
if they had "saved" in pension instead
cant touch it until HOPEFULLY 65...
and on-top of this, we havent mentioned fund allocation and performance
variable
(an extreme example
if the young person had being "investing" in property based pension fund
from say 1997-2007, probably lost MOST of any worthwhile gain,
and also now, they have probably naturally lose faith with investing
and property, let alone pensions...
JR.