Pedestrians and Cycle lanes

The Journal comments are a cesspool. If you cycle or just want a more pleasant city to live in, do not read the comments. Any time a person has died whilst cycling the comments are classic victim blaming.
 
dereko1969 said:
The Journal comments are a cesspool. If you cycle or just want a more pleasant city to live in, do not read the comments. Any time a person has died whilst cycling the comments are classic victim blaming.
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I cycle to work through the city centre nearly every day. Looking at how cyclists behave I would say that they are at fault at least 75% of the time when there is a crash with a motorist.
 
Purple said:
I cycle to work through the city centre nearly every day. Looking at how cyclists behave I would say that they are at fault at least 75% of the time when there is a crash with a motorist.
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Really? I'm lucky I haven't seen many crashes, seen a lot of close passes/near crashes where it was nearly always the fault of the person driving not paying attention or just not caring. I've nearly been knocked off my bike by a taxi driver speeding in a bus lane and coming within a few inches of my handlebar, my wife was squeezed onto a footpath by a Dublin Bus driver who had just overtaken her, and could not have failed to see her, moving towards the kerb.
I've had an elderly gentleman pull out in front of me in the rain when i was fully lit up with hi-viz on and was lucky i had space to manouevre into to avoid him - he definitely shouldn't be driving.
And yesterday whilst giving space to a couple who looked like they were about to step into the road (to give space to other pedestrians) on the hump back bridge in Ringsend I had a clown overtake (on a blind hump back bridge) me and nearly come into contact with a car he couldn't have seen, all to get to the red light 50 metres down the road!
There is loads of bad behaviour by people cycling but the impacts are minimal, bad behaviour by people driving can and does have life changing impacts on others (not them, generally).
 
dereko1969 said:
Really? I'm lucky I haven't seen many crashes, seen a lot of close passes/near crashes where it was nearly always the fault of the person driving not paying attention or just not caring. I've nearly been knocked off my bike by a taxi driver speeding in a bus lane and coming within a few inches of my handlebar, my wife was squeezed onto a footpath by a Dublin Bus driver who had just overtaken her, and could not have failed to see her, moving towards the kerb.
I've had an elderly gentleman pull out in front of me in the rain when i was fully lit up with hi-viz on and was lucky i had space to manouevre into to avoid him - he definitely shouldn't be driving.
And yesterday whilst giving space to a couple who looked like they were about to step into the road (to give space to other pedestrians) on the hump back bridge in Ringsend I had a clown overtake (on a blind hump back bridge) me and nearly come into contact with a car he couldn't have seen, all to get to the red light 50 metres down the road!
There is loads of bad behaviour by people cycling but the impacts are minimal, bad behaviour by people driving can and does have life changing impacts on others (not them, generally).
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I don't disagree with any of that. In the last two weeks I've had a car door and a truck door opened into my path and I've had a guy swerve into the cycle path to undertake a car turning right but cyclists do really stupid things too, like undertaking trucks and busses, running red lights, taking illegal turns, cutting out in front of cars and generally not paying attention to what's around them.
 
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Purple said:
I don't disagree with any of that
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Except the last bit ;)
dereko1969 said:
And yesterday whilst giving space to a couple who looked like they were about to step into the road (to give space to other pedestrians) on the hump back bridge in Ringsend I had a clown overtake (on a blind hump back bridge) me and nearly come into contact with a car he couldn't have seen, all to get to the red light 50 metres down the road!
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Purple said:
but cyclists do really stupid things too, like undertaking trucks and busses, running red lights, taking illegal turns, cutting out in front of cars
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