Overpayment / re-fix flexibility of AIB's green 5yr fixed rate (and some other rates)

Could you share the wording?
And is this a former Ulster Bank mortgage, or originated with AIB?

The 'loophole' is contractual, so AIB cannot remove it.
Original Fixed Rate Rate mortgage with AIB, half way through fixed term

 
I got it as well.. but surely they can’t override my mortgage agreement/contract?
 
So how I read this is the scenario yesterday was you could overpay on green mortgages if your met the formula earlier on. Now it is the case that the have added this as an additional term to encourage people to overpay but they set a limit of 5k just in case it goes the other way and bites them. So it's just a way to encourage others to overpay tbh and probably find this thread. So if the interest rates go the other way they will still allow 5k. So they put it as the smallest amount as possible as they want to get people thinking about it as it benefits them without exposing them to more risk but only that 5k per year.
 
Red Onion has summarised the situation for AIB fixed rate mortgage holders here:

 
Hi all,

I've read this thread and the other related threads and I'm super confused as I'm not very knowledgeable about these financial terms so I'd appreciate some guidance.

I'm 2 years in 12 years mortgage with AIB (5 years fixed, green mortgage, 2.15% interest rate).

If I understand correctly, I can now overpay lumpsum 5K without early repayment fee (new AIB mortgage feature). And I can even overpay more than that because my interest rate is lower than the current rates. Is this correct?

If so, is there not an upper limit? I may as well just overpay the whole of remaining credit if I have the money. Would that not cause breakage fee?

If all of the above is fine, then, do I just transfer on the app/Internet banking? I added my mortgage account but I'm scared making 5K or more overpayment would reduce term and break my fixed term rate.

I'd appreciate any guidance. Thanks
 
My guess is you’d just reduce the monthly repayment amount and everything else would remain as is.
 
I'm scared making 5K or more overpayment would reduce term and break my fixed term rate.

I'd appreciate any guidance. Thanks

They can't cancel your fixed rate unless you agree to it. If you don't believe me see what AIB say themselves. The link below outlines your options. You have a choice how any overpayment is treated. If you look to reduce the term then it would appear you may have to forfeit your current fixed rate. However, if you're happy to just reduce your monthly repayments your fixed rate is safe.


I'm 2 years in 12 years mortgage with AIB (5 years fixed, green mortgage, 2.15% interest rate).
This is a very good rate, so good in fact it is likely to be more advantageous to save any overpayment than to overpay.

You have 3 years left and the current best buy on a 3 year fixed term deposit rate sheet dirt comfortably exceeds your mortgage rate.


Savings rather than overpaying isn't for everyone but some of the arguments for and against are in the following:

 
Hi all,

I can't find the old thread where we discussed "break fee".

Basically, I have a 5-year fixed AIB Green mortgage at 2.15%. I am in year three of five.

I have a lump sum that I want to transfer from my current AIB account.

Will there be a break fee?

Thank you
 
How much are you throwing in? Since September 2023, AIB allow you to overpay by 5K per calendar year. Transfer 5K in now today and 5K in two days later. That's 10K sorted without even considering any fees.

 
There won't be a break fee because of how AIB use an additional method for calculating the ERC as outlined at the beginning of the thread

Your rate of 2.15% is lower than anything on offer currently so it will definitely be zero break fee

However if you have any doubts, it is very easy to request an ERC from AIB for the amount that you want to overpay.
 
How much are you throwing in? Since September 2023, AIB allow you to overpay by 5K per calendar year. Transfer 5K in now today and 5K in two days later. That's 10K sorted without even considering any fees.

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Oh wow, I have only a day left.
I was thinking €10k but I need to check if I already lodged earlier this year.
What would be the fee if its over 10k please?
 
Thanks so much, as always.

I recall AIB won't tell you the break fee (ERC) over the phone and usually send a letter that could take 7 days. Is this still the case?

@BigPineapple highlighted a limit of 10k per year to overpay. Any idea that's the penalty if its above 10k?
 
Update:
Spoke to AIB team now.

They can't give me an early redemption figure on the phone and will send me a letter by post.

The last overpayment I made was on 2 October 2023. I guess just before the limit of €5000 came into effect.

So I am stuck now and worried if I pay €5000 today, they may pose a fine of €2000 or something...
 
The last overpayment I made was on 2 October 2023. I guess just before the limit of €5000 came into effect.

So I am stuck now and worried if I pay €5000 today, they may pose a fine of €2000 or something...
If you haven't made any overpayment in 2024, I can't see any issue to transfer 5K today.
 
If you haven't made any overpayment in 2024, I can't see any issue to transfer 5K today.
I have made the payment now.

I checked last overpayment was in October 2023 and no overpayment in 2024.

I hope they will consider today's payment under 2024 calendar year, given its the last day of 2024 and almost 13:00 O'clock.

Cheers
 
So I am stuck now and worried if I pay €5000 today, they may pose a fine of €2000 or something...
You are over complicating what is very so straightforward. There would never be a 40% penalty on an overpayment.

What @BigPineapple highlighted is a separate condition of AIB where everyone on any fixed rate can pay €5k per year with no penalty. Anything above that may incur a fee.

But in your very specific circumstances of having fixed on the 5 year rate at 2.15% , AIB's calculation method for the ERC will mean you definitely won't have an ERC. It's really that simple
 
That's most helpful.
I have made a payment of €5K today. I wanted to overpay €10K but will delay the extra €5K to 2025, in line with the new condition.
 
That's most helpful.
I have made a payment of €5K today. I wanted to overpay €10K but will delay the extra €5K to 2025, in line with the new condition.

I fear you may have used your 2025 €5k allowance

"If you make an overpayment in December, this needs to be paid no later than 15 December to make sure that it's processed within the current year's overpayment allowance. While we will try to process all overpayments by the end of the current year, if you make an overpayment after this date, it may be taken from the following year's allowance."

(I've seen this on letter I received after to changing to fixed rate early December)

Looking at comments above, hopefully it won't affect you negatively

https://www.askaboutmoney.com/threa...rate-and-some-other-rates.222401/post-1840204