Office Martyrs

Seriously I do not know anyone who works a seven hour day..
It does not make them a martyr doing longer hours ,its just a fact of life..

A lot of people catch up on work after work,these days,ie emails etc..its just a fact of life.
Obviously some cynics would call it martyrdom,but for some its the reality of keeping on top of the huge workload they have,and perhaps keeping their jobs,.(leaving aside those who actually do nothing ,but make like they are working hard)
It must be great to be so sure of not getting sacked that some feel no pressure to do any of that,but this is the way it is for a lot of people.

These aren't the people being discussed though. In the OP it is an individual who won't hand over any work or accept help. Everyone is working with limited resources and is having to do more work in that period. In effect, I now have to also complete the work of 2.5 people in addition to my normal work based on 3 years ago.

However, if I've a quieter period or some slack in terms of the current priority project and a colleague is falling behind, I will offer to take work off them and vice versa. There are some, who for whatever reason refuse the assistance and would rather work 14 hour days (or say they do) even though there are ample opportunities to ease the workload.

My job isn't guaranteed, we're all under closer scrutiny, but I'll still refuse to take on work either internally or externally if I'm working on the day's priority. Some clients moan and even tell me to drop work I'm doing for other clients so their job can be done, I tell them that I will, but then only if they're prepared for me to drop their work when a different client asks me to do the same tomorrow.

And so on, blah blah blah. I've still got my job, I still get more done than most, it's all done in a manageable time and I even have the odd moment to post on here.

If employers still only judge employees by the amount of time they spend in the office rather than their actual output, then no wonder they're fighting to survive. It's like those statistics on some footballers who lack any real talent, contribute little, but because the stats show they ran around on the pitch for 90 mins non-stop and covered 15km, that some how that makes them a good player. Until it's actual productivity that's measured and not how long you're logged into the system, martyrs will exist and business will go bust.
 
Have you read the thread, thedaras?

Yep, I have read it,which is why said "leaving aside those who make like they are working hard,but in reality do very little..

I understand that there are those type ,however,those who have to do a lot more than the 9 to 5,can be lumped in with them,and given the title martyr,which is why Im saying that some who do the extra hours ,who have to work at home after work,who need to make the phone calls etc can and are viewed in the same light..

Its a bit like those who work their way up, you get people saying they are "brown nosers"(dont know what the technical term is!) when in fact they may have worked really hard,done the extra time,taken the time to study while working full time..I get it,that you mean the type who are just unproductive..Just adding on to it by mentioning those who do a lot can be called martyrs for doing so.
 
Yep, I have read it,which is why said "leaving aside those who make like they are working hard,but in reality do very little..

I understand that there are those type ,however,those who have to do a lot more than the 9 to 5,can be lumped in with them,and given the title martyr,which is why Im saying that some who do the extra hours ,who have to work at home after work,who need to make the phone calls etc can and are viewed in the same light..

Its a bit like those who work their way up, you get people saying they are "brown nosers"(dont know what the technical term is!) when in fact they may have worked really hard,done the extra time,taken the time to study while working full time..I get it,that you mean the type who are just unproductive..Just adding on to it by mentioning those who do a lot can be called martyrs for doing so.

Fair enough. Definitely some people are 'put upon' as opposed to being martyrs.

In general, like Latrade, I think judging people (or feeling your worth is judged) by how long you spend in the office is a skewed way of thinking. By that logic a more efficient worker is of less value than a less efficent person because they can get through their work and be home in time for dinner instead of struggling and having to stay in the office until 8 o clock or whatever.

I think workers should be judged on output, effective use of staff and ability to get things done.
Someone who makes a saga out of every little job and takes twice as long as colleagues to achieve the same output or leaves their staff and peers sitting around idle because they want to do everything themselves is not a good member of staff simply because they are last to leave the office every evening.
 
Fair enough. Definitely some people are 'put upon' as opposed to being martyrs.

I do wonder about the put upon people though too. I take on board the view about job security fears, but it's hugely ineffecient for any company to have all that workload on one person, not just from it not getting done, but from the point of view of what happens if that person leaves?

As far as the put upon goes too, they have to face up to the workload and get it addressed. A 5 litre container can only hold 5 litres, no more. We can only do so much in a working day. If I'm coming into work and before I sit down my day is already at a metaphorical 4.5, then I've only scope to take on half a litre of additional stuff in that day.

It makes no business sense whatsoever to have someone in that position. They'll burn out and you'll lose them or work will be missed, lower quality, etc. If the put upon aren't quantifying the volume of work and whether it's practicable for one person to achieve that or not, then I blame them too as well as the employer. We shouldn't be making heroes out of them or judge everyone else by their standards.

Put upon or martyr, all the same to me, just indications of poor corporate/business management.
 
Yaaaayy. Our office martyr has managed to tear herself away from work for a week (for a very worthy cause). Amazing how smoothly everything is working without her. She would be soooo raging... sorry, relieved I meant to say, not raging. :D
 
Yaaaayy. Our office martyr has managed to tear herself away from work for a week (for a very worthy cause). Amazing how smoothly everything is working without her. She would be soooo raging... sorry, relieved I meant to say, not raging. :D

A great opportunity to move her desk ;)
 
A great opportunity to move her desk ;)

Read a great story over the weekend about the manager of a Legoland in the US, he parked his car atwork for a couple of days and came back to find it had been replaced by a LEGO replica:D.
 
Our office martyr wears a 3 piece suit on casual Fridays and then looks down his nose at those who dress casually.
 
Our office martyr is back from her break. We have all been making a point of telling her everything went brilliantly (which it did) in her absence.
 
Our office martyr is back from her break. We have all been making a point of telling her everything went brilliantly (which it did) in her absence.

Problem is she will spend the first week looking for mistakes...
 
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