On what do you base this?
Fundamental analysis?
Technical analysis?
Gut feeling?
Forward earnings?
Trailing P/E?
Cat entrails?
Interest rate movements?
Recessionary sentiment?
The oracle at Delphi?
And which shares? All markets or just some? What about emerging markets? What about Iceland, are its shares a buy now?
Rarely does such a short statement annoy me so much.
The messages from the pythoness were gnomic. There is no doubt as to the meaning of your message.I'm not going into detail, did the oracle of Delphi go into detail?
I don't see share prices going much lower than they are today...
The longer things are settled and the longer that banks aren't going under the more confidence investors will have in banks...this will lead to them buying up more shares in these banks driving the price higher...
I love internet predictions.
With increased jobs comes demand for oil, banking services such as mortgages, commodities such as gold and other services such as airline flights.
pythoness being gnomic ??? and what is the oracle of Delphi?? for us mere mortals who are share illiterateThe messages from the pythoness were gnomic. There is no doubt as to the meaning of your message.
Dead.pythoness being gnomic ??? and what is the oracle of Delphi?? for us mere mortals who are share illiterate
I think now is a good time to buy shares, others might disagree, that's their right.
The cycle so far as I can see it was like this...great banking uncertainty leading to a dramatic drop in banking share prices...the uncertainty is slowly resolving itself in an ongoing way...the share prices are bottoming out with the decline in certainty....
The longer things are settled and the longer that banks aren't going under the more confidence investors will have in banks...this will lead to them buying up more shares in these banks driving the price higher...
As for the rest of the market, again the uncertainty seems to be coming to an end and in 2009 the market will imo pick up again...
I don't see share prices going much lower than they are today...
therock said:"It is the correct strategy in the long term, but an improvement on that strategy is to suspend your payments until the market hits rock bottom...the general consensus among the 'experts' here and in the US (following the news helps!) is that we are in a period of great uncertainty similar to 1929. So now is not the time to put your eggs into the stock market, through a PRSA or anything else. "
therock said:But I believe that we are reaching the bottom of the cycle and the slow turnaround is not far off. Call it an educated guess."
I wanna know about the cat entrails!!!pythoness being gnomic ??? and what is the oracle of Delphi?? for us mere mortals who are share illiterate
Seriously mate?
Here is a quote from one of your responses to why you should stop paying into a long term PRSA/pension market based fund account on 16/10/2008
you argued with me black and blue against the markets etc how can you justify this kind of turnaround and poor advice that you obv dont believe in but are totally swayed by market sentiment.
How fickle is that, have you suddenly seen the light and completely changed your outlook and investment strategy
P.S i love this bit from earlier.. no offence, from today -..
Top stuff lol
Maybe you should take your own advice and read the news because i can assure that i do for whats its worth.
When we were dicussing that, the markets were in a rapid downward spiral and you were telling people to invest away in a rapidly declining market so I don't really think I have to justify what I said to you.
If people heeded your advice they would have lost a lot of money since no-one should buy into a market which is in freefall...the market today has stabilised and its near the bottom...that is the time you should invest...not a couple of weeks ago.
There is no contradiction in what I said, If you saw it that way, thats your problem not mine.
If people heeded your advice they would have lost a lot of money since no-one should buy into a market which is in freefall...the market today has stabilised and its near the bottom...that is the time you should invest...not a couple of weeks ago..
This is lovely stuff the defence of the indefenceable lol classic,
By the way if anyone hasnt seen the thread here is the shortcut
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?t=94516
You may note that i advised investment in a market based PRSA for the long term, and also advised on the deposit based option for someone who did not want to take risk but still wanted to get the tax relief which you also could not seem to grasp.
In the space of 2 weeks!! is this long term investing to you for retirement? as that is what i was advising...... you have now gone from worst period since 1929 to magical rebound blah.. blah
Id take an eduacated guess as you say and state that you have not got a clue furthermore you have totally made a fool of yourself with this thread in relation to your earlier stance m8 thats the reality
The above is just plain ridiculous if there is any sense left in your head you will admit as much and surely acknowledge the glaring errors in your advice over the last few weeks and admit that your viewpoints are based purely on speculation as oposed any type of sound investment strategy.
Im only pointing this out to you as you were quick to jump on me, i kind of feel sorry for you now as you have been embarrassed here
Please dont take it to heart we have all made mistakes..
Definition of Fickle person fickle - liable to sudden unpredictable change; "erratic behavior"; "fickle weather"; "mercurial twists of temperament"; "a quicksilver character, cool and willful at one moment, utterly fragile the next"
I will explain this simply for your benefit...if someone put a 400 euro PRSA payment into the stock market when you said they should, they would be down to about 200 euro now. If they followed my advice and held off, they would still have the 400 euro which they could now invest in cheaper shares.
Obviously you have a vested interest in getting people to use your tax advice and obviously you don't care if people lose all their money in their pensions so long as you get a cut from it.
It's common sense to buy shares at their cheapest and sell at their dearest. A lot of people lost money in the recent share price collapses, many of them nearing retirement...whether they can make it up before or during retirement is the question.
But if people had their PRSA invested in the market and kept investing when you said they should, they would now be down a lot of money...if they held off until now when shares are 50% or more cheaper, they would then be in a far better place going forward.
And because you are a vested interest, everyone who disagrees with you, you will call a fool, even though the real fool is you.
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