New tax & vrt rates?

Re: Can someone please confirm the truth about the new tax & vrt rates for me please?

Ceatharlach said:
The VRT changes as of July 1st, but when you go to renew road tax in 09 on a jan to july 08 car it will be new emmissions tax.
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So - if I import an automatic, 2 litre petrol, 2002 MY Volvo next week, I can tax the car at the current tax rate i.e Euro 590 p.a.
BUT, April/May next year when I go to renew my car tax I will have to pay the C02 based rate, in my case Euro 1000 p.a? Seriously???
 
Collis

Nobody knows thats the problem.

We will have to wait and see.

You would think that is the way Gormley would want it discourage people from buying your example and push them towards greener cars.

If you were thinking of the petrol volvo auto then defo buy now though because as it stands it looks like the VRT is going to go up. At the moment it appears the tax will remain on the cc's
 
Re: Can someone please confirm the truth about the new tax & vrt rates for me please?

collis said:
So - if I import an automatic, 2 litre petrol, 2002 MY Volvo next week, I can tax the car at the current tax rate i.e Euro 590 p.a.
BUT, April/May next year when I go to renew my car tax I will have to pay the C02 based rate, in my case Euro 1000 p.a? Seriously???
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No.
The new annual motor tax system only applies to 2008 cars. Your 2002 car is not affected even if you import it after July 1.

This is explained on the dept of Environment website.
 
Have been told by 'someone in the know' that the BMW diesel will only reduce in price by a small amount in July but that it will be loaded with extras in lieu to protect the value of current BMWs.
 
Don't be suprosed if car dealers don't change prices too much don't add extras and try and screw us for more profits.

Although if they do this then expect a lot more people to go north or start looking at the ferry.
 
kbie said:
Have been told by 'someone in the know' that the BMW diesel will only reduce in price by a small amount in July but that it will be loaded with extras in lieu to protect the value of current BMWs.
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Unfortunately ur friend is just offering an opinion rather than being 'in the know'
BMW have been consistent from the start that they will pass on the vrt reductions in full to their customers. The following link provides clear details of this with large reductions in particular on the 520d and 320d amongst others. http://external.bmw.ie/templates/BMW06/includes/0807_BMW_MINI_Price_List.pdf

the spec levels remain the same with es, se and m models available and a host of extras at extra cost the same as they have always been.
 
pator said:
Unfortunately ur friend is just offering an opinion rather than being 'in the know'
BMW have been consistent from the start that they will pass on the vrt reductions in full to their customers. The following link provides clear details of this with large reductions in particular on the 520d and 320d amongst others. http://external.bmw.ie/templates/BMW06/includes/0807_BMW_MINI_Price_List.pdf

the spec levels remain the same with es, se and m models available and a host of extras at extra cost the same as they have always been.
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Good to see a company not attempting to take advantage of consumers unlike in my opinion Renault!

Renault were selling their new 1.5 Laguna Diesel for €26590
They have upped the April price for the Laguna to €28590
From July with the decrease in VRT the car will be back on sale for €26590! It is very sharp practice and against the spirit of the VRT reduction so top marks to BMW and ZERO to renault.

Look here for the car price list in Feb / 2008 http://www.simi.ie/admin/files/PriceGuideFeb08.xlsYou can see a Renault

Laguna diesel is priced at 1.5L DCI 110 ROYALE 5DR €26,590 On Renaults website the new price for the Laguna ishttp://www.renault.ie/specialoffers.asp

The Renault Laguna III 1.5 dCi 110 ROYALE 5DR for April has been increased to €28,590

I think there should be a "sticky" highlighting genuine reductions and outing any attempt at price gouging
 
ya lot of coments about renault and in particular that model.. I'm not as familar but renault's arguement is that that model was heavily discounted because no 1.6 available at the time. Saying look at all prices not just this model. Either way brutal PR for a company launching a new laguna when it was suppossed to so much better than the old one.
 
There are a lot of specialist Independants popping up in Ireland now who will import the car for you on request if nessacery and give you a 24 month warranty on the vehicle.

One example of a reputable company is www.autoplatz.ie

They will source the car from the UK and stand over what they sell.

A large percentage of the cars you see imported for sale on the internet here in Ireland offer no such guarantees, you wont have to go far to pick up a clock job or worse still an insurance write off back on the road.

with 80,000 + imports arriving in Ireland each year it's worth covering your ass.
 
just to recap,i buy a uk car under 120 co2 in august,its a 2007 car,so i pay 100 euros road tax and the lowest vrt to import.
 
Does anyone think this whole situation is laughable? I heard there was a survey last week saying there was a deal of confusion around this whole issue, and various pundits implying it was people's fault for not being informed.

However, if you dig down into the Dept. of Environment's Web site, you can find a document (with no title, no date) that says "The new CO2 based system will not apply to second-hand imports that were registered abroad prior to 2008." Fairly unambiguous, I would have thought. Then try going to the SIMI Web site, and you'll find an information leaflet that tells us: "Imported cars first registered in previous country before the 1st January 2008 will be Road Taxed at current rates except those with emissions more over 225g/km which will be taxed on a CO2 basis (currently €2,000)."
Now, either the SIMI is wrong, or they know something that the Dept. of Environment aren't sharing with the rest of us (or maybe they are, and I just can't find it?). Or maybe the Dept. is issuing conflicting information? surely not?

Who to believe in any of this???? As I said, laughable.

On second thoughts, not so funny: I'm looking at importing a 2nd hand car from the UK, and could well be faced with making a very expensive mistake, based on mis-information that's been circulated.

Can ayone point to any definitive, government sourced information on both VRT and car tax pre- and post- July this year?
 
yes, totally agree, i have read both of those statements too,,

would of imagined tha the SIMI, would have it correct at this stage,,

do we just wait for the guinea pigs in july??????
 
i think i understand now,if a buy a second hand 2008 yaris diseal in july,i pay low vrt and low road tax
 
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i may do,first i want to make sure i know what the road tax and vrt are,then i want to check out internetcarcompany.ie ,also i have to sell my own car.
 
clonboy said:
yes, totally agree, i have read both of those statements too,,

would of imagined tha the SIMI, would have it correct at this stage,,

do we just wait for the guinea pigs in july??????
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Lot of excellent info about this over on boards.

For imports:

all 08 (and later 09 etc) imports subject to new vrt rates and new co2 based tax rates.

All other imports (ie 07 and older) subject to new vrt rates only. Subject to existing car tax regime.
 
pator said:
For imports:

all 08 (and later 09 etc) imports subject to new vrt rates and new co2 based tax rates.

All other imports (ie 07 and older) subject to new vrt rates only. Subject to existing car tax regime.
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That's pretty much my undterstanding, but....

Where exactly is this information published?

Also, what about 2nd hand import cars between Jan and July '08?

Why do the SIMI say something different?

There's planty of info here and on boards.ie etc., but unless it can be backed by reference to something, it's little more than speculation or opinion.
 
ang1170 said:
That's pretty much my undterstanding, but....

Where exactly is this information published?

Also, what about 2nd hand import cars between Jan and July '08?

Why do the SIMI say something different?

There's planty of info here and on boards.ie etc., but unless it can be backed by reference to something, it's little more than speculation or opinion.
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I would argree with u 100%. We need to be carefull of the difference between speculation/opinion/pub talk and actual fact.
Of course thats where my arguement falls down I can't point to one specific document, alot of stuff on http://www.environ.ie/en/LocalGovernment/MotorTax/News/MainBody,16861,en.htm
also just keeping up and trying to avoid opinion. (people are entitled to give out about stuff but doesn't change facts etc.)

For your question: what about 2nd hand imports between Jan and July 08;

Answer is the same; in this time period 08 cars and pre 08 cars will be vrt at the old rates.
08 cars road tax at new rate
pre 08 cars at old rates.
 
Ive spoken with several tax offices and the official line is that all car imported into ireland between January and before July 1 will have the option whether to pay motor tax based on emissions or engine size, whichever is less.

After July 1 the new co2 emissions will only apply to 08 cars imported or registered, the old system will still apply to older vehicles
 
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