New Email service hey.com

peemac

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Saw this in the Irish times - a new paid for email service hey.com which allows you filter a lot of your spam out and have an uncluttered email inbox.

Looks good, $99 a year, but even better, a lot of shorter email addresses are available - even some first names (esp the more unusual ones) are still available.

Considering eir is a similar price, this may be a better option
 

PaddyBloggit

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Because HEY isn't abusing your privacy to serve you non stop ad's, GMAIL isn't free if you care about your online privacy.
I have an adblocker installed. I see no ads on gmail.

Re. online privacy... if you have nothing to hide... well why should it matter?

There was a time online privacy might have bothered me but when I see what people are divulging with their mobiles phones, it doesn't bother me anymore.
 

azerogo

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Adblocker doesn't work for gmail, the ad's are embedded within the mail clients itself, and how they make the money is based on your activity and who you are emailing.

Gmail reads every single one of your emails/stores and keeps this data forever, they then sell your data to private companies, check the targeted ads within gmail and you'll see how particular they are to you.

It's also not a matter of "i have nothing to hide" it's about keeping the nanny state at bay, otherwise where does it end.

I work in this area so maybe i just prefer to keep what i do private from large American corps rather then let them sell on my data.

Also there is nothing for free.
 

PaddyBloggit

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Adblocker doesn't work for gmail, the ad's are embedded within the mail clients itself, and how they make the money is based on your activity and who you are emailing.
Something is working for me. I see no ads within my gmail account.

The nanny state has us in their hands already. Your PPS number has marked you out. Cameras watch our every move etc.

Coming back to the OP's announcement... does hey.com not store material somewhere?

As you work in the area, you of all people should know that absolute privacy doesn't exist anymore.

It's now down to what we are willing to accept or not.

Do you use a VPN to surf the net? If you do ... that's what it takes for you to feel private. If not, why not?

I have yet to see any green eyed monster at my door and I haven't seen any direct consequence of my using a free gmail account.

On the small off chance that will happen, I'm happy to use gmail.

The day online privacy will bother me is the day I'll sever all connections with the Internet.

At the moment, I'm happy with the level of privacy I have so I can't see that happening any time soon.
 

Brendan Burgess

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I too use gmail.

My email client is Thunderbird.

I don't see any ads. I don't seem them if I access Gmail by the web either?

Like Paddy, I think that the concerns over privacy are overdone.

It drives me mad when I have to listen to a message warning me that my phone call is being recorded. I think a few extremists have protected their own privacy at a cost of a huge burden on the rest of us.

Brendan
 

losttheplot

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I normally see two ads at the top of Gmail. Don't really notice them anymore. Wouldn't bother paying to not see them. There's so much advertising everywhere I think we just filter it out.

I'd say most people don't care about privacy that much. Facebook and Instagram would be pretty bare if they did.
 

Gordon Gekko

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+1

I couldn’t care less about the fact that I see holiday ads because I was googling ‘holidays’.

I have nothing to hide; crackpots have made everyone else’s life a misery having to opt in and opt out of God knows what; and all for what?
 

cremeegg

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I am not too concerned with google reading my emails, if something is really private I won't stick it in an email. However I think we should be grateful to the 'crackpots'. It is because they keep pressure on the multinationals that there is a certain level of consumer protection for the rest of us.
 

Thirsty

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It's one thing to say you 'don't care' about privacy; which is itself a silly statement. You'll care a great deal when you are scammed, or arrested, or incorrectly identified by facial recognition.

It's a whole other kettle of fish if you are not aware of how you are being influenced.

you may find this of interest

 

Leo

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You'll care a great deal when you are scammed,
I don't think using Hey versus Google for email is going to offer much if any protection against being scammed, unless you believe Google are selling sufficient personal data. False positive rates for current facial recognition technology are very low, if it helped catch 99 wanted terrorists, murderers, drug dealers, pedophiles, etc. and incorrectly identified one wrong person who would likely clear up the confusion on the spot, I don't think too many people would mind.
 

PaddyBloggit

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It's one thing to say you 'don't care' about privacy; which is itself a silly statement. You'll care a great deal when you are scammed, or arrested, or incorrectly identified by facial recognition.

It's a whole other kettle of fish if you are not aware of how you are being influenced.

you may find this of interest
boo!
 

Thirsty

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Hey versus Google for email is going to offer much if any protection against being scammed,
That wasn't what I was suggesting.

The almost macho "I don't care about privacy" is what I was commenting on.

I admire your ability to blithely believe that facial recognition is accurate to any degree, never mind being regulated.

China uses this surveillance to an astonishing extent.

But don't imagine its not happening elsewhere.

Contrary to the user agreements you sign up to, photos are being screenscraped from facebook and other social media and dumped into databases which are being paid for by police, particularly in the US.


Lives have been destroyed by people being wrongly accused; poor quality forensics have left innocent people in prison for decades, some have lost their lives.

A so-called 'copy and paste' error saw Maurice McCabe wrongly accused of child abuse.

And you still think we have nothing to worry about in the world of facial recognition?
 
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PaddyBloggit

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A most erudite and articulate response.
I think people are over thinking personal privacy.

It probably wasn't the best response I could make and flippant though it was, I was trying to portray that things could get out of hand if we start to see privacy monsters around every corner.

I see very little or no impact on me with regard to my privacy and gmail.

I'm still awaiting a reply to my question on whether or not hey.com stores a users info or not.
 

PaddyBloggit

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what does the EULA say?
From their T&Cs page:

We take many measures to protect and secure your data through backups, redundancies, and encryption. We enforce encryption for data transmission from the public Internet. There are some edge cases where we may send your data through our network unencrypted. Please refer to our Security Overview for full details.

When you use our Services, you entrust us with your data. We take that trust to heart. You agree that Basecamp may process your data as described in our Privacy Policy and for no other purpose. We as humans can access your data for the following reasons:

  • To help you with support requests you make. We’ll ask for express consent before accessing your account.
  • To safeguard Basecamp. We’ll look at logs and metadata as part of our work to ensure the security of your data and the Services as a whole. If necessary, we may also access accounts as part of an abuse report investigation.
  • To the extent required by applicable law.
So it looks as if the staff can look at email data and it can also end up on an unencrypted network. It wouldn't instill confidence in me.

I think I'll stick with gmail. I'm not paying an annual subscription and what I've in my emails even bores me to tears.
 
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