My complaint to RTE about the programme on Life Loans

Sorry Leper

I am confusing you with someone else.

Was it you who told me in 1999 not to be wasting my time setting up a consumer forum online. You predicted that less than 1% of the people who would benefit would ever say thanks, yet 100% of the people whose posts had to be moderated or who didn't like the answer they got would become abusive to me online and in person.

Well you were right about the 1% and the 100% but you were wrong about my motivation. I wasn't doing it to be thanked.

Brendan
 
Brendan Burgess said:
Sorry Leper

I am confusing you with someone else.

Was it you who told me in 1999 not to be wasting my time setting up a consumer forum online. You predicted that less than 1% of the people who would benefit would ever say thanks, yet 100% of the people whose posts had to be moderated or who didn't like the answer they got would become abusive to me online and in person.

Well you were right about the 1% and the 100% but you were wrong about my motivation. I wasn't doing it to be thanked.

Brendan
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Hi Brendan,

In 1999 I had never heard of you. Please let me confirm that it was not I who told you not to be wasting your time setting up a consumer forum. I made no predictions regarding the forum whatsoever either. I didn't know of the existence of this forum until about 12/13 years ago when I joined. I have praised this forum on many occasions and never have I criticised its reasons for existence. Furthermore, I never said you were doing anything to be thanked. I don't know why you are making these untrue statements.

Lep
 
Sorry Leper

Maybe it was you who told me that I was wasting my time researching mortgage rates and discovering that the Central Bank was lying about the rates by including trackers as new business? And that I was wasting my time highlighting the issue?

Brendan
 
You might get further by approaching one of RTE's competitors with the complaint and see if they would be interested in airing your viewpoint
 
Brendan Burgess said:
Sorry Leper

Maybe it was you who told me that I was wasting my time researching mortgage rates and discovering that the Central Bank was lying about the rates by including trackers as new business? And that I was wasting my time highlighting the issue?

Brendan
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Hi Brendan,

Once again, It was not I who said you were wasting your time researching mortgage rates and discovering that the Central Bank was lying about the rates including trackers as a new business.

Lep
 
OK,

It's just amazing that over the years so many people have told me that I am wasting time complaining about things or seeking change.

Of course, many of them achieve nothing.

But like this complaint about Joe Duffy. The BAI might uphold it or they might reject it.

It doesn't mean that I have wasted my time.

It's called trying to make people accountable.

But you might be right. It's probably a waste of time and people should not ever try anything, in case they don't succeed.

Brendan
 
Brendan Burgess said:
OK,

It's just amazing that over the years so many people have told me that I am wasting time complaining about things or seeking change.

Of course, many of them achieve nothing.

But like this complaint about Joe Duffy. The BAI might uphold it or they might reject it.

It doesn't mean that I have wasted my time.

It's called trying to make people accountable.

But you might be right. It's probably a waste of time and people should not ever try anything, in case they don't succeed.

Brendan
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Hi Brendan,
1. I never told you that you are wasting time complaining about things or seeking change.
2. I never said people should not be made accountable.
3. I never said people should not ever try anything.

Lep
 
Brendan Burgess said:
It's called trying to make people accountable.
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If more people took a proactive approach, the country would be a far better place!

One of our greatest faults, as a nation, is the level of rubbish that we put up with.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.”― Edmund Burke.
 
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Appearing on the Joe Duffy show defending an Irish Bank's financial offering is akin to a fully bedecked Celtic supporter wandering into the home end in Ibrox .
Brave but ultimately destined to end in disaster.
I fully agree that the life loan is an admirable policy but demands a civilised panel discussion on a program not on a bull baiting program such as Joe Duffy's where a balanced view is a rarity.
 
Brendan Burgess said:
You predicted that less than 1% of the people who would benefit would ever say thanks, yet 100% of the people whose posts had to be moderated or who didn't like the answer they got would become abusive to me online and in person.

Well you were right about the 1% and the 100%
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Now ain't that the truth. You're not the only one to get dog's abuse of course but you get most of it. I've always thought it very nice when the very odd poster came back on here to tell us how it had worked out, how they got on and how they were helped on here

You are also mentioned disparagingly on other websites I've noticed.

What is really annoying is when posters come on looking for advice, one gives one's honest opinion and the poster takes great offence to the advice. They are strangers to us, what would be the point of on here if we only told people what they wanted to hear.
 
losttheplot said:
Ironically, when Irish people do want to complain about something who do they complain to...Joe Duffy.
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Like, love, hate Joe Duffy. He is essentially an entertainer and he is influential. He knows his job, he is well trained with truck loads of experience and he has a back-up/support team that work their socks off for him. Arguing/debating with Joe Duffy needs much skill, something that many lack. Whether you agree with him or not In the words of a Dancing with the Stars panellist Joe Duffy is BoxOffice. Everything else is secondary.
 
MrEarl said:
If more people took a proactive approach, the country would be a far better place!
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This kind of post worries me. All of Brendan's / AAM's most successful campaigns have been reactive - they took or take place after an event or a series of them had occurred. Would I be writing to Ms. eir about bad customer service and poor products before experiencing them? No? Then my interactions with her are reactive i.e. after the event and they had a trigger.

It's a bit like the famous press briefing where a senior Garda member (note: not a Garda officer, as there is no such thing) stated how proud he was about the force's success in proactively solving crime!! Along with the hums, ahhs, ehms, d'you know wot I mean, looks, listens, at the end of the days, WOW factors, Oh my Gods and other rubbish dumped into oral communications these days. Totally unique, oxymoron or almost unique, aka "scarce", the hanging interrogative at the end of a written statement. Watch how Brendan and most of the mods write - it's different to post posters.
 
Leper said:
Like, love, hate Joe Duffy. He is essentially an entertainer and he is influential. He knows his job, he is well trained with truck loads of experience and he has a back-up/support team that work their socks off for him. Arguing/debating with Joe Duffy needs much skill, something that many lack. Whether you agree with him or not In the words of a Dancing with the Stars panellist Joe Duffy is BoxOffice. Everything else is secondary.
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Only because of the number of idiots in the country, Leper.

I would welcome the opportunity to take him on in relation to something like LifeLoans.
 
Podge and Rodge almost got him. 'Would you describe yourself as a socialist Joe?' When he said yes they kept quoting his salary.
Defending banks or insurance companies in Ireland will never go down well.
In some ways Brendan is the financial equivalent of Joe. If you have a financial issue, talk to Brendan. Brendan will tell if you're taking the mick quicker than Joe though. And rightly so most cases.
 
Leper said:
I thought you said "I would welcome the opportunity to take him on . . . " But, wisely you well know Joe Duffy seldom loses on home ground. And the overriding message is Don't Talk to Joe.
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Nope, I absolutely would welcome the opportunity to take him on. I’d love to. But I can’t for work reasons.
 
But you could do so anonymously (unless you're his boss or he's yours). I've appeared on the Joe Show 3 times over the years as Tom, Dick and Gerry. They verified mi ID and respected my need for anonymity based on the topics under discussion.
 
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