Maths Grinds for Junior Cert Daughter - Rate per hour ?

FLANDERS` said:
How did he get on with French after that? I maintain that not all students are going to be excel at all subjects, and grinds can put extra pressure on the situation, if the student is genuinely weak in a particular area. For example, how disappointing would it be for a student (not referring to your son) to get a D a subject with the teacher only, then have 4 months of grinds and still get a D?
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My son got a C in hons french. His first two years in secondary were very good in that subject. He then got this new/other teacher and he went downhill as did the rest of the class. Apparently the class average was D. I fully agree that children at this stage in their development do not need extra pressure but you have to agree that some teenagers are just plain lazy and need a little shove.
Parents need to realise their own childrens abilities and encourage rather than force. I believe a childs social development and self esteem is equally if not more important and very much needed in todays world.
 
switching to foundation level maths is not a great idea if the child ever wants to go to college. I had a terrible teacher for JC maths but was lucky I had an interest in it. She was a bully and it was the shy students who didn't have the confidence to stand up to her bullying that ended up being forced into doing pass. Then I had a great teacher for hons maths in leaving cert but switched to pass in the end because I didn't need honours for college and could get the points needed from my 6 other honours subjects would have needed an honour in honours but only needed a B in pass so it took a lot of pressure off and made life easier study wise.
 
FLANDERS` said:
It doesn't matter what level of maths the person in question is doing, it only matters whether the person it able for that level.
I agree, there may indeed be several reasons but ability the certainly the first one to look at, as its far to easy to say the teacher is no good and go for grinds but not even consider that perhaps the student isnt able and would be happier at a lower level
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What do you do with the student who is already at the lowest level in a subject at Junior cert and is struggling?
 
The OP's daughter is actually concentrating on Higher level Maths for JC .
Has achieved 55% in Christmas exams , but wants to do better .

I feel , that we as parents have a duty to help her to improve as well as her teacher/ school.
We feel she has the ability , but as some-one said above ......many teachers have to just brush over the subjects and obviously cannot give extra time to one particular student.

Which is why , we are going to arrange a one-on-one .

If her results improve , and she goes on to be successful at Honours Maths , it will have been all worthwhile .

The statistics are , that of 55,589 students at Leaving Cert 2008, only 15.3 % sat the Higher Level Maths Paper ...........and only 6,600 student gained an honour (grade C or better ) in Higher Level Maths .
 
my daughter and her friend organised maths grinds for their leaving cert a few years ago. they both went in for 2 hours -they got an hour each and could listen in for the other girls hour, so really they got 2 hours for the price of 1. results were great. some teachers may accomodate this idea.
 
Update to original question asked on the 29/01/09.

Grinds are ongoing weekly.......were quoted € 45 p/h ...........offered to pay € 35 , and € 35 p/h was agreed ...on condition that daughter attends at least one day every week .

Grinds appear to be helping , although the 'proof of the pudding' will be Junior Cert results next August .
 
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