Lidl Lgfa ad

JoeRoberts said:
Lidl currently heavily advertising for people to go to the ladies games. Saying we need to eliminate inequality and fill every seat. It's a bit of a stretch argument. People can make up there own mind what they want to pay money to see.
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At today's prices people will make up their own minds, and rightly so . I can see the argument for supporting these games although I thought , looking at the games on TV yesterday, there looked to be great support in Kilkenny.
I sure it's not a cheap day out ..
I thought Cork were very impressive as were both Galway and Tipp , it was hard luck on Tipp ..
 
JoeRoberts said:
Lidl currently heavily advertising for people to go to the ladies games. Saying we need to eliminate inequality and fill every seat. It's a bit of a stretch argument. People can make up there own mind what they want to pay money to see.
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I think the first step to eliminating inequality would be to cease all references to "ladies' games", which by the way is only football as females or women if you prefer, play camogie, and hurling is currently a male-only game.

Only males can be members of the GAA, which rents facilities and grounds to the "Ladies' Association" and the camogie association.

Integrate the associations and start by dropping the sexist terms currently in use.
 
Why would you drop the reference to ladies ? It's a different game with different rules ..how else can we distinguish it. It was the ladies who came up up the term LGFA. My original point is that Lidl are creating a marketing stance on an allegation of inequality that does not exist ..nobody is prevented from going to Lgfa games.
 
JoeRoberts said:
Why would you drop the reference to ladies ? It's a different game with different rules ..how else can we distinguish it. It was the ladies who came up up the term LGFA.
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It should be the women's league within an overall GAA structure. We don't call men who play GAA gentlemen so why call women who play it ladies?
JoeRoberts said:
My original point is that Lidl are creating a marketing stance on an allegation of inequality that does not exist ..nobody is prevented from going to Lgfa games.
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I agree completely. It's a great example of an accusation of discrimination or sexism where none exists.
 
The Lgfa decided how they wanted to be named themselves. our local team refer to themselves as ladies in all their media, no one is calling for it to be dropped.
 
mathepac said:
Only males can be members of the GAA, which rents facilities and grounds to the "Ladies' Association" and the camogie association.
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I'm sure Tracy Kennedy who until recently was chairperson of the Cork County Board would be surprised to hear that, esepcially as she is now a member of the Gaa Governing Body, a body which requires 40% female membership under Govt rules for grant aid. I'm also sure the chairperson of my own club would be very surprised to hear that she is not a member of that club.

Gaa has 80000 full female members and 30% of club officers are female
www.irishexaminer.com

GAA teases out options for achieving management gender balance

Association considering proposals to ensure they continue to receive €3 million per annum from the Government for gender quotas
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JoeRoberts said:
The Lgfa decided how they wanted to be named themselves.
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In 1974.
JoeRoberts said:
our local team refer to themselves as ladies in all their media, no one is calling for it to be dropped.
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It's certainly not a big deal but it is anachronistic. I think Tennis and Golf still use Ladies in their prefix but most sports use Women's.

On the topic of this thread the reason that the ladies game is not supported as much as the men's game is that ladies aren't as interested as men are in sport. That's not sexism, it's biology.
 
Girls in their teens or twenties taking part in sport would rather be called ladies than women ...I would suspect.....no offense to either, by the way.
 
The Ladies Gaelic Football Association is called Peil naMban in our native tongue; that translates as Womens' Football. If we translate the English LGFA to Irish we get Peil na mNá Uaisle. How about a bit of consistency?
 
Let’s not argue about some ladies association making a few bob from Lidl. Camogie and Ladies Gaelic Football will always play second fiddle to hurling and Gaelic football. Take Cork for instance whose hurlers participated in the recent All Ireland Hurling Final. The city and county was decorated nearly everywhere in Red and White. Cork Camogie team will play Galway in the Camogie All Ireland Final in a few days and Guess What? Most of the Red and White colours have already been removed from the Cork houses. Guess Whar again, the colours were removed mainly by Cork women. Thank You Lidl and long May you support Women’s Sport.
 
Leper said:
Let’s not argue about some ladies association making a few bob from Lidl. Camogie and Ladies Gaelic Football will always play second fiddle to hurling and Gaelic football. Take Cork for instance whose hurlers participated in the recent All Ireland Hurling Final. The city and county was decorated nearly everywhere in Red and White. Cork Camogie team will play Galway in the Camogie All Ireland Final in a few days and Guess What? Most of the Red and White colours have already been removed from the Cork houses. Guess Whar again, the colours were removed mainly by Cork women. Thank You Lidl and long May you support Women’s Sport.
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Surely the camogie players have something to say about that... That seems like a slap in the face to camogie in Cork , at least. ....I wonder if it the same in Galway considering they played the football final was last week also..
Have a look there Leper if you are not doing anything and report back. :D your travelling expenses will be in the post...
 
It's not just about ladies sports and in fairness on Cork, if they were in the Mens Football final you'd see very few flags flying in Cobh or Midleton. That part of the county, football is something hurlers play to keep fit. I don't think my father ever saw Cork playing a football match in the flesh yet I remember being at plenty of Munster Hurling finals with him.

You've got to look at the base that womens sport is growing from, it's very small. Now they can get 15000 at an international soccer match, 50000 at the Ladies Football final, it is growing.

I would never have really watched womens sport growing up, camogie barely existed in my parish and ladies football didn't exist at all and women made the tea and sandwiches. Now the GAA club puts out players in all codes, ages and all genders, chairperson and treasurer are women and no one blinks an eye at it. And yes, the main interest will be on how the intermediate hurlers get on this year in the Championship but there is plenty of interest in the womens championship as well.
 
I think its a bit misleading of Lidl to imply that low turnout at a ladies game represents an inequality somehow.
Cricket matches - of any gender - wouldn't exactly have huge turnouts either. Which inequality should we eliminate there ?
 
JoeRoberts said:
The Lgfa decided how they wanted to be named themselves. our local team refer to themselves as ladies in all their media, no one is calling for it to be dropped.
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Exactly. Just what they need right now is some random old man on the internet telling them what they should find offensive :D
 
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