... in the Civil Service, ... you still have to give your leaving cert results on any application form for promotion...
Also, a lot of my friends claim that their kids are doing absolutely no work for their exams and, when you nervously enquire about how they did, they seem to have done great. Not sure if its because the exams are easier, or teaching methods have improved.
What do other people feel about claims that the leaving cert has been dumbed down in recent years. I've just read an article in the Irish Times saying that last year 75% of pupils achieved an A, B or C in English in the leaving cert. I remember when I was leaving school As were practically impossible to achieve, Bs were considered absolutely brilliang and Cs were a very, very respectable result. Nowadays, As and Bs seem to be very achieveable and a lot of kids seem to be very disappointed with a C. Also, a lot of my friends claim that their kids are doing absolutely no work for their exams and, when you nervously enquire about how they did, they seem to have done great. Not sure if its because the exams are easier, or teaching methods have improved.
I never knew that!! Does the format date back to the times when post Leaving Cert you either entered the CS or went to Uni?
Well done, bash the teachers again. Does anyone realise that we have one of the best educational systems in the world. Teachers should be paid more!! As for sick leave, 30 days is'nt enough when you have to deal with some of the little darlings that go to school these days.Doubt teaching methods have improved - where is the incentive for teachers to raise thier game?
We have the highest paid teachers, on an hourly basis, of any country in the world, and that is before their "entitlement" to more than 30 days annual sick pay is taken into account.
With teaching standards like that, no wonder the country is stuffed
I'm not sure but, believe me, it drives people nuts. You could have done three degrees since you left school and have twenty years work experience, but they still want to know whether you got a C or a D in geography back in 19 whatever. It's ridiculous.
Year on year this dumbing down is not obvious. This year 143 got 600 points compared to 216 last year despite more people sitting the exam.
You want dumbing down, look at the North. There is a 12% chance of getting straight As in the NI A-levels compared to a 1/4% chance of 600 points down here. No wonder Trinity Med is awash with Northern A-level students.
Yes, but I wonder if you compared results this year with results from 15 or 20 years ago would there be a marked difference? I suspect there would.
I think we like to think that it has been dumbed down as it gives a sense of coming from tougher times. Times change and so has the outlook for teens. Now college is seen as a certainty whereas before it was for those who were avoiding real work or the real world. The emphasis on a more rounded education is there now. The hours haven't lessoned so I doubt the ability of students has diminished either.
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