"Kilkenny Trust" that makes your mortgage "disappear "!

wasn't an attempt to build up suspense!

 
Mortgage Guy;

I think my question still stands.
Maybe I am a doubting Thomas since everyone states these Boyos are chanchers , yet they are still standing !

I just cannot figure why they have not been stamped on.
Our last few years have been a history of (experts),
Maybe these boyos are not 100% loco !!
Again , just asking.
 
Hi Gerry

As far as I know, they have never won a legal argument.

The problem is that they are giving false hope to people. There are people out there who are in difficulty but whose mortgages are sustainable if restructured quickly. If people believe that they can escape their debt and hold onto their homes, they will delay dealing with it and the situation will be irrecoverable.

If you are going to lose your home anyway, it might work as a delaying strategy, as it has done for this woman.

"not a single payment made in 3 years" Judge grants possession with 6 month stay
 

Yes that is the big problem with this, false hope. I have people in Ireland that are not stupid but are quoting me the freeman nonsense and the 'securitization' argument for many months now. They actually really believe it. It's very dangerous. It reminds me of the craziness of the celtic tiger and of pyramid schemes. And while I'm at it - of moving statutes too.

If any of this were true, then no freeman would have gone to jail, but they have, and no one would have to repay what they owe. Ultimately that stud farmer will lose his farm. He signed it away the day he borrowed and was unable to make the repayments.
 
It will be interesting to see if they ever manage to find themselves a properly qualified brehon to administer their notion of Brehon Law - doubt there has been a qualified practitioner in the country for 500 years! I doubt he would be quite as supportive of their position as they seem to think.

Also curious to see what happens if they get a little too literal with that sword and spear.
 
Am still going to watch this.
So far Mr Freeman/Mr Behon Law etc has apparently challenged on hopeless cases.
These cases have little else to lose, but SURELY the people they owe money to have LITTLE to lose using the CERTAINTY of their case.

I am around long enough to distrust certainty.
 
Brendan;

Jest not folks. Come November , come the ghouls and the ghosts!!
Maybe we could hire a few and send them to sort out our friendly and efficient Bankers!!
Failing that , I too must accept Mr Lawyer and Mr Barrister are about as good as we will get.
But still Maybe?
 
It appears a solicitor acted as a notary for the Trust, but has now severed his ties with them! Did he help them draw up the Trust documentation ?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/irelan...s-with-contentious-property-trust-242038.html

 
He is a maritime lawyer. Maybe that is why they went with him?
 
I suspect that the appointment of a maritime lawyer was a mistake: they wanted a ship's lawyer.
 
I think this is on topic because it puts light upon the calibre of individual (previously) associated with the "trust".The very same solicitor has an interesting history.

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Just in case anyone would put much stock in the fact a solicitor/notary is involved.

I'd be increasingly concerned for those buying into this, given the fact it is not openly linked to the Freeman movement and the individuals involved.
 
Things coming to a head now

http://www.independent.ie/irish-new...d-of-putting-receivers-off-land-29569638.html

I wonder will Mr Allen claim his trust now owns the land, when he is in court on Friday.