My working hours have been reduced- I'm now on a 3 day week and I've just started to claim Jobseeker's benefit for the other 2 days. I've yet to receive my first payment but I certainly don't think it's overly "generous" (think I'll get about €80 or so for the two days). I'm glad to be able to claim my entitlement having paid PRSI for more than 15 years but I'd much rather be working 5 days than claiming any welfare.....
Is anyone else cheesed off with how much people get paid on social welfare
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There are load of jobs around, the problem is that people will not do certain types of work which they think is beneath them.
There are plenty of jobs available in the following areas: convenience shop, filling station, fast foot outlet, stacking shelves in supermarket, cleaning offices, security guard etc.
These jobs starts at c.€10 per hour (some pay even more than this). Someone working full time would take home €400per week = €20k per annum.
Married couple both in this type of job would earn 40k per annum. (in most of these jobs, a couple could work different shifts thus not needing childminding.
Even if the aforementioned couple were recently unemployed and had a mortgage of 20k per annum (which equates to a mortgage in the 400k to 500k range), they would still be able to easily pay the mortgage and have enough to live off. They wouldnt have any luxuries - food from lidl, clothes from penneys, dont run a car, no holidays, no satellite TV etc., but they would survive. Not pleasant, but certainly doable for a year or two until things pick up.
The problem is the following:
1. Most people have mortgage protection policies which pay the mortgage if they become unemployed. The aforementioned couple are better off having the insurance company pay the mortgage and claiming SW plus all the fringe benefits. No incentive to work a low paid job to get by.
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2. If the aforemention couple are one of our permanent unemployed, particularly if they have little in the way of work experience/qualifications, there is zero incentive for them to work. If they get rent allowance/council housing, they are better off claiming SW than taking on a low paid job.
So its clear that there is a problem. We have loads of jobs available, but because most (but not all) SW recipients fall into one of the above 2 categories, they will not take any of these jobs.
This system needs to change.
There are plenty of jobs available in the following areas: convenience shop, filling station, fast foot outlet, stacking shelves in supermarket, cleaning offices, security guard etc.
These jobs starts at c.€10 per hour (some pay even more than this). Someone working full time would take home €400per week = €20k per annum.
Married couple both in this type of job would earn 40k per annum. (in most of these jobs, a couple could work different shifts thus not needing childminding.
Even if the aforementioned couple were recently unemployed and had a mortgage of 20k per annum (which equates to a mortgage in the 400k to 500k range), they would still be able to easily pay the mortgage and have enough to live off. They wouldnt have any luxuries - food from lidl, clothes from penneys, dont run a car, no holidays, no satellite TV etc., but they would survive. Not pleasant, but certainly doable for a year or two until things pick up.
The problem is the following:
1. Most people have mortgage protection policies which pay the mortgage if they become unemployed. The aforementioned couple are better off having the insurance company pay the mortgage and claiming SW plus all the fringe benefits. No incentive to work a low paid job to get by.
or
2. If the aforemention couple are one of our permanent unemployed, particularly if they have little in the way of work experience/qualifications, there is zero incentive for them to work. If they get rent allowance/council housing, they are better off claiming SW than taking on a low paid job.
So its clear that there is a problem. We have loads of jobs available, but because most (but not all) SW recipients fall into one of the above 2 categories, they will not take any of these jobs.
This system needs to change.
Out of curiosity, can you give me more details of all these jobs. I have a couple of friends who would be more than delighted to have a look. Where are these plentiful jobs being advertised?
My friend has been looking for work since June and is even prepared to work for €19K now.....yet she can get nothing.....she has even tried retail and there is nobody taking on....what type of jobs are you talking about.
I guarantee that if your friends walk into all of the following and ask to speak to a manager about jobs, they'll get something (assuming that they are relatively normal people).
Spar, Centra, Londis.
Esso, TOP, Texaco, Topaz.
McDonalds, Burger King, Supermacs, Abrakebra.
Tesco, Dunnes, Marks & Spencer, Lidl, Aldi, Superquin.
Whatever local cleaning companies operate in your area.
Whatever local security firms operate in your area.
Spar, Centra, Londis.
Esso, TOP, Texaco, Topaz.
McDonalds, Burger King, Supermacs, Abrakebra.
Tesco, Dunnes, Marks & Spencer, Lidl, Aldi, Superquin.
Whatever local cleaning companies operate in your area.
Whatever local security firms operate in your area.
http://www.mcdonalds.ie/A-great-place-to-work/Opportunities-at-McDonalds.aspx
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http://www.tesco.ie/careers/vacancies.html
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to start with.
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http://www.tesco.ie/careers/vacancies.html
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to start with.
I didn't think of applying for these jobs because I speak English, it's certainly the impression I got in the last 10 years that the only qualification one needed for these jobs was not be able to speak English.....
