Injured bird in Garden

Purple said:
If you don't want to put a bell on your cat then keep it in your house/garden. It's nothing to do with empathy, it's to do with people letting their pets kill wild animals and thinking it's ok because they are their little kitties and sure that's just the way they are.
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Cats have a natural instinct to kill. Unless they are going to kill a bald eagle or a panda then I dont see the problem. If they enjoy killing a crow or a robin then I say let them at it. In the wild animals get killed with a gruesome savagery every day.
 
television said:
Cats have a natural instinct to kill. Unless they are going to kill a bald eagle or a panda then I dont see the problem. If they enjoy killing a crow or a robin then I say let them at it. In the wild animals get killed with a gruesome savagery every day.
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So its ok for them to kill one animal and not the other? Twisted logic.:rolleyes:
 
baldyman27 said:
So its ok for them to kill one animal and not the other? Twisted logic.:rolleyes:
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Well I was taking the proverbials a bit. But seriously one is a indangered species and well there is millions of crows and robins out there. But if for the sake of argument a cat did take down a panda I would say fair play to the pussy.
 
And could robins not become an endangered species if those horrible kitties keep killing them for sport? BTW, they can kill all the crows they want, AFAIK they're considered a pest anyway.
 
baldyman27 said:
And could robins not become an endangered species if those horrible kitties keep killing them for sport? BTW, they can kill all the crows they want, AFAIK they're considered a pest anyway.
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Humans play sport. Animals kill out of instinct. Seriously doubt that the robin population will be killed by cats. The effects of Global warming might be thier biggest danger.
 
In the UK cats kill around 55 million birds a year. That's about 20% of all birds killed. There's no reason to suggest that the figures differ greatly here.
Cats are not wild animals; they are domestic pets. If people didn't feed them, house them and being them to the vet then I'd accept the "It's a fair fight; they are all wild animals" argument but that's simple not the case. If they are indeed wild animals then there shouldn't be an issue with people trapping and disposing of any they catch in their garden.

BTW, Dogs have a natural instinct to kill as well but they are smart enough to be trained to act otherwise. Cats are like hairy lizards in both temperament and intellect.
 
for what its worth (and im nearly always right as most posters would agree :D ) Cats can be loving yet cold, i agree. As can ALL animals. We have a cat & 3 dogs. Each have they're own little personalities... our cat just happens to be a softie and our dogs are lunatics. We wouldnt have it any other way though. None of them are collared as we took advise from our Vet.

If I walk one of the dogs ill collar & lead him. All animals have the right to live their lives as nature intended. however, I do believe a human should step in if another human is in danger of that animal or if an animal is in pain after an attack or illness etc (just example).

As we have once again gotten off the topic - the OP would do well to kill the bird immediately. The most humane thing to do. Yes the cat got it as intended but sometimes a little help goes a long way. We just need to pick and choose the right kinda help... (if that makes any sense)
 
If you have a pet cat and die in a room with just it for company you'd better be found quick or tabby will not take too long to have a few nibbles..
 
Purple said:
In the UK cats kill around 55 million birds a year. That's about 20% of all birds killed. There's no reason to suggest that the figures differ greatly here.
Cats are not wild animals; they are domestic pets. If people didn't feed them, house them and being them to the vet then I'd accept the "It's a fair fight; they are all wild animals" argument but that's simple not the case. If they are indeed wild animals then there shouldn't be an issue with people trapping and disposing of any they catch in their garden.

BTW, Dogs have a natural instinct to kill as well but they are smart enough to be trained to act otherwise. Cats are like hairy lizards in both temperament and intellect.
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A cats going to do what a cats going to do. Cats have been domesticated by humans. They have natural instincts which derive from/through evolution.

ON a broader note why do pet lovers constantly attribute human qualities to animals? Dogs do not love like humans do. They do not care like humans do. Dogs cats or pet gerbles do not have intellect.

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Purple said:
In the UK cats kill around 55 million birds a year. That's about 20% of all birds killed. There's no reason to suggest that the figures differ greatly here.
Cats are not wild animals; they are domestic pets. If people didn't feed them, house them and being them to the vet then I'd accept the "It's a fair fight; they are all wild animals" argument but that's simple not the case. If they are indeed wild animals then there shouldn't be an issue with people trapping and disposing of any they catch in their garden.

BTW, Dogs have a natural instinct to kill as well but they are smart enough to be trained to act otherwise. Cats are like hairy lizards in both temperament and intellect.
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There is a huge feral cat population in the UK, because too few people bring their cats to the vet, or feed and house them. Not all of those birds are killed by domestic cats. How are the other 80% killed?

Classifying an animal as ' wild ' does not confer an automatic right to kill or trap it.

Dogs are indeed smart, smart enough to convince humans that they can be trained to forget their natural instincts.

I didn't mean to start a debate on cats and dogs - all I'm concerned with is the welfare of a small animal. All it is doing is doing what nature intended - hunting for food.
Nature never intended birds to sit munching on peanut feeders in back gardens. Thats why so many of them get killed - they are too easy prey for the cats.
 
Now I have an injured bird in my garden, I don't have the heart to beat it to death. hopefully it gets better and or goes into neighbours place.
 
Spread poison on its feathers and then stand in the garden puss-pussing to all the neighbourhood rotten-horrible-mean-evil-disgusting-cold-did-I-mention-horrible cats and have a good laugh while they all perish for their unnecessary instinct. Plus you don't have the conscience of having killed the bird. Unless its a crow, then take a hurley to it.
 
MandaC said:
Seriously cant believe the amount of people who dislike moggies
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These poor simple lovers of slobbery, clumsy, eager to please omnivores who can turn on you in a second just don't understand cats Manda. :)
 
Caveat said:
These poor simple lovers of slobbery, clumsy, eager to please omnivores who can turn on you in a second just don't understand cats Manda. :)
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:D

Reminds me of the following scene from Meet the Parents:

Jack: Greg, how come you don't like cats?
Greg: I don't not like cats. I-I just-- I just prefer dogs. I mean, I'm just more of a dog kind of, you know--Come home, wagging their little tails, happy to see you kind of--
Jack: You need that assurance? You prefer an emotionally shallow animal?
Greg: I--
Jack: You see, Greg, when you yell at a dog, his tail will go between his legs and cover his genitals, his ears will go down. A dog is very easy to break, but cats make you work for their affection. They don't sell out the way dogs do.
Greg: Huh.
 
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