correctWhere the ball passes into a neighbouring garden, it will constitute trespass to go and collect it without permission
correctYet, the ball does not belong to the neighbour
if no request is made can it just be left there?and so it should be returned on request
thanks seems that wayWell these things go by precedence, if the 1948 case is anything to go by, then there is no onus on the land owner to return it.
I think it may be illegal to kick ball in street and may constitute anti social behaviour by putting people in fear damage. Cannot find the wording nowWe get footballs over about 3 times a day, which sometimes destroys our plants. I know they must come over to get them when we are not in the house. I don't see what we can do about it, because they don't listen about kicking the balls in the street by the cars
Does it only apply to local authorty houses?The Housing Miscellaneous Provisions Act 1997 defines anti-social
behaviour as: any behaviour which causes or is likely to cause any
significant or persistent danger, injury, DAMAGE, loss or fear to any
person , living, working or otherwise lawfully in the vicinity of a
house provided by a local authority.
I politely advised footy to be played elsewhere (rather than against the fence of my back garden. That was ignored - and ultimately, that ball met with stanley blade before being returned in 2 halves.if a ball is kicked in to neighbours garden is the neighbour legally obliged to give it back? They cannot damage it but could they just leave it there.
you probably broke the law though and could be in trouble if the complained to the garda. did they see you and did parent say anythingI politely advised footy to be played elsewhere (rather than against the fence of my back garden. That was ignored - and ultimately, that ball met with stanley blade before being returned in 2 halves.
Problem solved permanently.
You do have a point - and it might come back to bite me in the future. However, I really detest people (and I don't care if they are kids - if they were given the required direction from their parents (as this is done in view of said parents), then this situation shouldn't arise) dropping in my back garden uninvited - staring in my back window at me. As regards the petty gloating, that wasn't really where I was heading. It was (and is) a case of wanting total privacy and quiet enjoyment of my own home. As already pointed out, my 'solution' wasn't perfect - but it's the only real option I could run with. Asking them to pick a different spot didn't seem to sway them. A warning that the ball wouldn't be coming back the next time was met with the tossing of a crisp bag into my garden."Problem solved permanently"
I would not be so sure that the problem is solved permanently. Kids nowadays don't defer to adults as they used to.You could be storing up touble for yourself in the future. To be honest returning the ball in two halves smacks of petty gloating and is less than what one would expect from an adult.
The option taken following...Is splitting the ball a good example to young folk from presumably an adult? I think you might be inviting retaliation.
Already acknowledged.I think you might be inviting retaliation.
Bronte doesn't mind kids coming onto his property or knocking on the door every few minutes for same.
However, boundaries have to be established with these people
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And if it were my children that ignored your request they would be in serious trouble with me.
spot on.This is the crux of the matter,in my opinion. There are parents,unfortunately who never check to see what their children are at,on the street, and/or actively encourage them to disrespect the property of others whether it is damage to cars/ trespass in gardens or whatever.
There are parents actively encourage them to disrespect the property of others whether it is damage to cars/ trespass in gardens or whatever.