George Hook

Thirsty I apologise for calling you a Troll, rather you seem somewhat intellectually challenged.

I am deducted taxes without my consent, doesn't mean I'm being raped.
 
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" deducted taxeswithout my consent"

We are talking about rape, not politics or finance.

"rather you seem somewhat intellectuallychallenged."
Now you're just being rude.
 
Thirsty said:
" deducted taxeswithout my consent"

We are talking about rape, not politics or finance.

"rather you seem somewhat intellectuallychallenged."
Now you're just being rude.
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The BVM was told she would give birth to a child. She was not raped. Consent doesn't come into it. Get it?
 
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"...told she would give birth...Consent doesn't come into it. "

So if I read you correctly, you believe that whatever process was invoked, be that 'divine intervention' or the more prosaic, and usual, method of man / penis / semen. Mary's consent to this process was not required?

Edit Corrected required to invoked to be clearer
 
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Purple someone, anyone please advise me to stop engaging with this poster, she is so obstinate.

Thirsty you posited that the treatment of the BVM has given rise to a rape culture. I hope you will now accept that she was not in any way raped, indeed the story seems to go in the total opposite direction, she was spared sexual activity of any sort, consensual or otherwise.

You have instead changed your point to one about consent, which since there is no rape involved is totally irrelevant to OP.
 
Thirsty said:
Perhaps you might answer my question?
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If you really want an answer it is Yes. But please don't take that as an encouragement to ask other irrelevant questions like 'What is the capital of France?'

Your persistence that what the BVM experienced was rape is a kick in the teeth to true victims of that heinous crime.
 
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Just to sum up

The question was..
Mary's consent to this process was not required?

Answer: Yes

I rest my case.
 
Sounds like George ain't coming back. Now while I've already said he should have finished up, I'm not supportive of contrary opinion being squashed. We used to have right wing totalitarianism via the church, now we have left wing/liberal outrage imposing a single acceptable view. I was pro marriage equality, anti-Trump etc etc but I still don't think we need to pillory anyone who was anti marriage equality or pro-Trump, an awful lot of playing the man not the ball in modern discourse, if the merits of the argument stack up then why not debate those instead of trying the get the other argument off the pitch.
 
Duke of Marmalade said:
Purple someone, anyone please advise me to stop engaging with this poster
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I'm the last person who should give advice in that area.

My only comment on that matter is that anyone who thinks that religion creates the moral framework of a society without also thinking that the moral framework of a society creates the religion is not really thinking things though.
 
That about sums up my view on the matter as well. The media should challenge the consensus, not just reinforce it.
Those who were the liberal outsiders have now become the establishment but they don't realise it.
 
Thirsty said:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/i-rest-my-case
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You have me tearing my hair out by now

I never challenged your views as to the consent of the BVM. In the terms of Mathematical Logic (which I appreciate may be beyond your grasp) lack of consent is a necessary but not a sufficient condition for rape. Other aspects which you yourself have alluded to graphically must also be present.

Lack of consent is arguably present in the case of the BVM and certainly in the case of my taxation but the other conditions are not present ergo in neither case is there rape. I rest my case
 
Firefly said:
What are the odds on Georgie Boy penning a book between now and Xmas and appearing on the LLS ??
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I thought that living in Dublin all these years had knocked the rough edges off him but as they say, "you can take the man out of Cork..."
 
If George is permanently railroaded off the radio station, it is nothing short of character assassination by many (nobody) people who should have known better.
 
Ivan Yates today said he doubted George would come back to Newstalk after the investigation was complete. I can't see it myself either.
 
Duke of Marmalade said:
Purple someone, anyone please advise me to stop engaging with this poster, she is so obstinate.
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You should probably use the 'People You Ignore' feature, for your own sanity.
Betsy Og said:
we have left wing/liberal outrage imposing a single acceptable view. I was pro marriage equality, anti-Trump etc etc but I still don't think we need to pillory anyone who was anti marriage equality or pro-Trump
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Well said. Our bleeding heart media are cheerleaders for the blue hair brigade. It seems that hard left/ultra-liberals don't know the meaning of tolerance, God love them .
 
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