In this case Mcdowell should go - he has ultimate responsibility for Justice in this country, the good old people of Ireland don't give a toss though (excuse the expletive).
Sad really.
And answers should be DEMANDED BY US - The Electorate, someone has to be accountable.
So accountability is not important then ?
Yes, but he answers to the minister. The minister says "fix the problem" and the Commissioner says "yes Boss". That's the way it is and it's 100% the way it should be.Last time I checked, the Minister for Justice was neither responsible nor accountable for operational procedures within An Garda Siochana - this is the role of the Garda Commissioner.
As far as I know the directive mentioned [broken link removed] or specific Irish legislation relating to it applies for the past year or more so this would help in terms of using IP address and sites/URLs accessed in the course of an investigation of certain suspected crimes.Is an IP address not of very little use anyway - most ISP's here don't provide users with static IP addresses, so would that not negate the usefulness, additionally would people using these sites not use proxy servers which would mask the real IP address?
The only clearcut evidence would have to be the money trail, I don't think anything else would stand up in a court of law, as even if they found the computer with images etc, who's to know who actually accessed those images, at least with the credit card authorisations etc, you've established a pretty good probability that the owner of the card is culpable.
No, accountability is important. It's important that the right people are accountable and that the chances of the same mistake happening again are reduced. Given that human errors do happen it is important that systems are put in place that minimise the chances of them occurring.......
but you rarely get an Irish minister taking that degree of responsibility.
But when the police shot a Brazilian going about his business the home secretary didn't offer to resign. Come to think of it when the prime minister invaded a country on utterly false information and plunged it into a civil war that has claimed over 30'000 lives he didn't offer to resign. The British have a long history of resigning for the small stuff and brazening it out on the big stuff. I wouldn't hold them up as an example of virtue.I'm not sure who, ultimately, should be held accountable for this, but the difference between here and the UK when this kind of thing happens is always interesting. eg Charles Clarke offered to resign as Home Secretary when it was discovered that over a thousand foreign prisoners had been freed, rather than deported. It wasn't his personal failure, but he took responsibility for what happened in his dept. There are countless other examples that I can't think of now, but you rarely get an Irish minister taking that degree of responsibility.
As for this Irish case, systems certainly need to be improved but I don't think systems were the problem here, the humans at the centre of it were.
But when the police shot a Brazilian going about his business the home secretary didn't offer to resign. Come to think of it when the prime minister invaded a country on utterly false information and plunged it into a civil war that has claimed over 30'000 lives he didn't offer to resign. The British have a long history of resigning for the small stuff and brazening it out on the big stuff. I wouldn't hold them up as an example of virtue.
I also don't remember the Irish minister of justice resigning over the garda collaboration with the IRA.Trust me, I'd be the last to hold the British up as the perfect example of virtue, I certainly don't remember any NI Secretaries resigning after the sundry murders committed by the security forces in the north over the years.
I also don't remember the Irish minister of justice resigning over the garda collaboration with the IRA.
I also don't remember the Irish minister of justice resigning over the garda collaboration with the IRA.
They're searching a house today! How many weeks later??
Ah well, they had to give the fella time to get rid of his computer
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