meccano said:
Bacchus, you are misleading people VERY BADLY here!!
You are wrong about both the French system, and the Irish system!
You are very presumptuous to invalidate the content of a complete post (#13 i guess) because of an incomplete statement rather than an incorrect one (for French system). I still persist in maintaining that the information post in #13 about French tax Option 1,2 & A, B is correct.
Any open minded person will appreciate that it is not realistic to cover every single aspect of a tax system in few lines.
While i do accept i was wrong about irish tax liability early in the thread, i think the matter was clarified mainly in post #22 and #23 when we brought in the DTA and that emf dug about the specifics of Article 21-4-B.
In fairness to other contributors, they also had stated tax liability in Ireland but did not back up the info as EFM did.
meccano said:
Are you perchance selling French property to Irish people? Zut Alors!!
Unfortunately, nop... but i wish i did as you would be retired by now with more money in the bank than i could expect to spend in a life time
meccano said:
The Micro Foncier system you referred to only applies to UNFURNISHED PROPERTY.
Any Irish owner is likely to be renting a HOLIDAY home, which is probably furnished. Therefore the MicroFoncier system DOES NOT APPLY!!
I have never seen any mention to "furnished/unfurnished" when reading about micro-foncier. But i am willing to accept you complement of information shall you be ale to back it up by please posting a link or extract of document mentionning "unfurnished only" for the application of micro foncier.
Meccano, you are misleading people VERY BADLY here!!
If you want be bring in additional specifics about the criteria to qualify to micro-foncier, please do correctly and accurately by stating that there are at least 7 factors to consider.. one of which being of direct relevance to Irish investors as it concerns "new build qualifying for Perisson, Besson or Robien investment law" (leaseback) which are excluded from micro foncier rules.
meccano said:
The Micro Bic system is applicable to FURNISHED properties, and it is much more generous in its fixed allowances than Micro Foncier.
Thanks for that, i did know about it.
meccano said:
It works as follows (using Bacchus's example) Rental income 6,000 euro (the max is actually 76,300 per annum in the case of MicroBic!) subtract a fixed allowance of 72%, this gives a TAXABLE income of 28%, being 1,680 euro in this example.
That ammount is then taxed at 25%, so the tax payable is only 420 euro!!!
But does it really matter about much tax you actually pay in France as you will ultimately end up paying 42% ( a bit in France, a bit in Ireland). anyway by the end (presuming 42% tax rate applicable).
At this point in the thread, EFM has hit the nail on the head by publishing the text from revenue, and from this post on, Irish tax liability is unambiquously accepted., even by me now since EFM post!!!
Happy now?