If that is the case, then you are in favor of Ireland stealing taxes from other countries?
They will go to their home country or China or another cheaper Asian country or to the mainland where they have access to a much bigger and better educated workforce which speaks English (Poland, Holland etc) and have better access to suppliers and markets.
Does that mean you are not concerned with us losing the billions in tax revenue as long as it stays within the EU?!
You answer first.If that is the case, then you are in favor of Ireland stealing taxes from other countries?
Are you in favour of us continuing to steal taxes from poor countries in order to fund our public services?
What's the capacity of Ireland's private hospitals in terms of scans and elective surgeries?
What would be the waiting lists for same in our public system if they didn't exist?
How many more doctors and consultants would fly off to Australia, Canada, US, Dubai etc if they were only being paid public rates?
It's pointless and am out.
Do you now accept that they can easily leave Ireland with few if any negative consequences if we have to stop stealing taxes from poor people?
Lower wages, lower income taxes, better infrastructure, better access to markets, better access to skilled labour?So if the EU implements rules that effectively end our favourable tax deals and treats all multinationals equitably across the EU, then why would say, Intel, move to any other country in the EU?
Make the argument. Support that post with something. Anything.I couldn't say, but arguably less people waiting.
But you accept that they have a capacity, that they do tests and scans, yes?Im not sure.
Their basic salary ranges from €123,000 to €190,000. The State also pays their indemnity insurance and they can use their publicly funded rooms and staff for private consultations. They can easily make the same again through their private practice. Therefore my figures were wrong; theyNone, dont you know, they already earn between €200-€300k without having to work weekends, apparently.
Lower wages, lower income taxes, better infrastructure, better access to markets, better access to skilled labour?
Consequences? Yes. But quite probably positive ones.
How will reducing the national medical capacity by reducing funding by €2 billion reduce waiting lists
If they weren't there would there be more or fewer scans done?
Their basic salary ranges from €123,000 to €190,000. The State also pays their indemnity insurance and they can use their publicly funded rooms and staff for private consultations. They can easily make the same again through their private practice. Therefore my figures were wrong; theyearnget paid far more than that.
You are being deliberately obtuse because the blatantly obvious doesn't suit your ideological position. You also won't answer any questions. Further discussion on this issue is pointless.The discussion is in the context of corporation tax. Next you will be talking about their better educated workforce?
I would be interested in hearing about the specific country in the EU that offers all of that.
Don't be silly.Funding wouldn't be reduced, it would be transferred from private control into public control.
Without private shareholders to feed, the money could be used to open wards, employ nurses, reduce waiting lists.
Okay, so you would just appropriate the money currently paid by private health insurance policy holders.More. Funds (from €2bn transfer) could be used to carry out more scans instead of pumping marketing companies with contracts to 'sell' healthcare.
No, because of the gross structural incompetence within our health service. You can thank the Unions for that. They have the blood on their hands.So im wondering, will they be leaving for Australia, NZ, Canada, Dubai? Because they are only paid public rates?
Are our public consultants paid too much, or too little?
The point is that we don't just get the €6 billion a year from them, we probably get half out tax take when income tax, VAT and everything else the wages they pay generates is taken into account. So, if the €6 billion goes there will be far more than that going with it.
My question would be is - where are they to go?
what the MNC's actually use Ireland for (what they are paying tax on).
it is to understand that we are a tax haven
Corporate tax again, yes? No?If they have roughly the same tax treatment in the USA they will move their IP etc back there. The tax the MNC's pay here is not based on the activities they carry out here. The main reason they are here and employ people here is we collude with them to evade tax in the rest of the world.
Are you in favour of us continuing to steal taxes from poor countries in order to fund our public services?
Are you aware of the corporation tax systems in places like Costa Rica and States like Delaware
The point is that if they leave we lose far more than €6 billion and all it would take is EU or the USA to stop us being a tax haven and they would be gone within a few years. The corporation tax we currently steal from other countries would go first and then, over a longer period, the jobs would go.
They taxes will be paid in the countries in which they business activity takes place.
There is nothing holding them here other than our collusion in tax evasion.
Does that mean you are not concerned with us losing the billions in tax revenue as long as it stays within the EU?!
The discussion is in the context of corporation tax
You are being deliberately obtuse
Don't be silly.
Okay, so you would just appropriate the money currently paid by private health insurance policy holders.
Most of those are pensioners; that'll never fly.
You are being deliberately obtuse because the blatantly obvious doesn't suit your ideological position.
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