If that is the case, then you are in favor of Ireland stealing taxes from other countries?
Fiscal Council: Up to €6 billion of Corporation Tax may be temporary
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If that is the case, then you are in favor of Ireland stealing taxes from other countries?
Does that mean you are not concerned with us losing the billions in tax revenue as long as it stays within the EU?!
You answer first.
Do you now accept that they can easily leave Ireland with few if any negative consequences if we have to stop stealing taxes from poor people?
Im not sure.
I couldn't say, but arguably less people waiting.
None, dont you know, they already earn between €200-€300k without having to work weekends, apparently.
Outside the EU isn't our main competition for God's sake. Do you think setting up in Ireland is the only way to get into the EU or something. I can see this is going to end up being another of the pointless threads that you get involved in and stay involved in like the claims culture one. It's pointless and am out. Purple, all yours!
Good, because the discussions were quite reasoned until you interjected. So next time someone references "outside EU" please dont return with an answer like Poland!
And worse, dont try rubbish your way about legal costs not being important and spouting nonsense like the staff coming under stress!
Of course I accept they can easily leave, I have already said that. But they cannot leave without consequence.
So if the EU implements rules that effectively end our favourable tax deals and treats all multinationals equitably across the EU, then why would say, Intel, move to any other country in the EU? From a taxation point of view, there would be no point.
Of course they could move all their EU activities lock, stock and barrel back to US or Costa Rica, or wherever.
But the consequences of that, in the absence of a free trade agreement, would be higher tariffs, barriers to trade etc, into the biggest (2nd) in the world - it sounds like it would be bad for business to me.
So Intel Ire, Microsoft Ire, FB Ire, etc...etc...all have an interest in having a presence in the EU. Ireland is the preference currently because of, amongst other things, our favourable tax regime AND barrier free trade into the SM.
If the favourable tax treatment ends, it still doesn't make an argument to move anywhere else within EU (not even Poland!
) as the tax treatment will be the same across EU.Lower wages, lower income taxes, better infrastructure, better access to markets, better access to skilled labour?
Consequences? Yes. But quite probably positive ones.
Make the argument. Support that post with something. Anything.
How will reducing the national medical capacity by reducing funding by €2 billion reduce waiting lists?
But you accept that they have a capacity, that they do tests and scans, yes?
If they weren't there would there be more or fewer scans done?
Their basic salary ranges from €123,000 to €190,000. The State also pays their indemnity insurance and they can use their publicly funded rooms and staff for private consultations. They can easily make the same again through their private practice. Therefore my figures were wrong; they
The discussion is in the context of corporation tax. Next you will be talking about their better educated workforce?
I would be interested in hearing about the specific country in the EU that offers all of that.
Funding wouldn't be reduced, it would be transferred from private control into public control.
Without private shareholders to feed, the money could be used to open wards, employ nurses, reduce waiting lists.
More. Funds (from €2bn transfer) could be used to carry out more scans instead of pumping marketing companies with contracts to 'sell' healthcare.
So im wondering, will they be leaving for Australia, NZ, Canada, Dubai? Because they are only paid public rates?
Are our public consultants paid too much, or too little?
You are being deliberately obtuse because the blatantly obvious doesn't suit your ideological position. You also won't answer any questions. Further discussion on this issue is pointless.
Don't be silly.
Okay, so you would just appropriate the money currently paid by private health insurance policy holders.
Most of those are pensioners; that'll never fly.
No, because of the gross structural incompetence within our health service. You can thank the Unions for that. They have the blood on their hands.
Is that corporation tax you are referring to by any chance?
Is that corporate tax haven? Or some other tax you are referring to?
Corporate tax again, yes? No?
What tax are you referring to here?
I don't evade tax, so dont lump me in with your nefarious activities. Unless of course, you are referring to 'our' as in, this States corporation tax policy?
The truth of the matter is that if the EU applies an equitable corporate tax system throughout the EU (including Poland!) then from the prospective of corporation tax only there would be little incentive for multinationals to move elsewhere in the EU, in my opinion.
Other factors such as Labour costs and educated workforces would come into play but I think you dismissed that earlier for this discussion?
If multinationals bail out to US or Costa Rica or wherever, without a presence in EU, then that just sounds like bad business considering the barriers to trade they will face in trying to trade in the SM.
But I think this is now obvious to you, but rather than accept the legitimate points I make (whether you agree or not) you revert to type and start the personal attacks.
Nothing silly about it at all, its a simple fact.
There are 2.2m private policy insurance holders in this country. There are about 637,567 people aged over 65 according to last census.
Its unlikely all of them hold private insurance policies.
Your statement doesn't add up.
Agreed, pointless continuing circling the WT drain.
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