Yes.TarfHead said:Any other (informed) views ?
A friend of mine swears by fish oils ( I can't remember the exact brand name) for calming down her 4 year old. Her daughter can be quite hyper but after a few days of the fish oil supplement, she calms down to an acceptable level and is able to concentrate on school, ballet and is much easier to discipline.TarfHead said:My son is attending a homeopath this morning to get some help with controlling emotion and temper.
I don't have a closed mind to stuff like this. Far from it. I look at the scientific evidence - or lack of it in this case - and draw conclusions from that. I don't set much store in anecdotal claims of success. The problem with things like homeopathy is that some people will "believe" in them and attribute effects to them in spite of the fact that there is no scientific basis or objective clinical evidence to support any claims of efficacy. Encouraging people to "believe" in quack treatments and remedies which clearly have no scientific basis is dangerous and objectionable in my opinion. Even moreso when there is no shortage of charlatans and quack therapists out there who "believe" in it and/or are simply willing to make money off the back of other peoples' ignorance, gullibility or vulnerability. If that opinion jars with others' warm fuzzy feelings and willingness to suspend their critical faculties in this context then I make no apology for it. As Magic Moose says here - "an open mind should not be so open that your brains fall out"!icantbelieve said:What a closed mind you have clubman
ClubMan said:.. I look at the scientific evidence - or lack of it in this case - and draw conclusions from that..
Read about the regressive fallacy that I mentioned earlier. Don't confuse correlation (i.e. the use of magnets and the easing of symptoms) with causality (i.e. any causal link between the former and the latter). Beware of the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.TarfHead said:My niece has eczema and 'formal' medicine wasn't addressing it. Her mother brought her to a homeopath who advised sellotaping small magnets to her hands at night.
Over the course of a few days, the eczema gradually disappeared from her torso and withdrew down her arms until it had cleared.
She isn't cured, but this remedy is able to address it repeatedly and effectively.
You don't know that it worked. It could have been a spontaneous remission which just happened to coincide with use of magnets. Or it could have been a placebo effect. There are many more logical explanations than improvement being attributable to magnet therapy. When faced with a range of possible explanations the simplest one that is supported by objective evidence is often the most likely. Also - if you are curious then why are you not prepared to take on board the objective, scientific, skeptical views on such matters?But I know it worked which is why I am curious.
Proponents of magnet therapy claim that subjecting certain parts of the body to doses of magnetic "energy" (or fields) has a beneficial effect.
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No magnet healing product manufacturers have demonstrated scientifically that they actually achieve what they claim, and most cannot even agree on what exactly the magnetic fields do.
What is the significance of this non sequitur? Why are you parroting what icantbelieve it said? Are you saying that we should believe in certain things for which there is no objective scientific evidence based on anecdotal evidence?"There are more things in heaven and earth .."
If the remedy is homeopathic then the practitioner is by definition a charlatan whether they realise that themselves or not. There's no point in asking people to "believe" in remedies which have no active ingredients and absolutely no objective, scientific evidence supporting claims of efficacy. Even the best will in the world is not enough to make up for the total shortcomings of homeopathy. It is a quack remedy. End of story.icantbelieve said:I know there are lots of charlatans out there which is why I recommended research on the practitioner and the remedy.
I agree. The problem is that homeopathy does not fall under the realm of medicine/science. It is a belief system with no basis. That's all.Of course this applies across the medical spectrum and some people are actually more likely to believe everything a conventional doctor tells them without exercising a healthy level of scepticism.
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