Are you sure about there being "very few blokes" in some of those sort of jobs? In my experience there are quite a few working as nurses, librarians and in HR.I suppose in the same way there are very few blokes in
secretarial work, nursing, librarianship or personel
its just the way it is.
Apprenticeship is just a form of slavery
The only winner is the greedy cowboy employers... it's a joke that it is not covered by minimum wage and that young fellas/cuddies are out there working for less than 200 euro a week for at least a 40 hour week.
Probably not a good idea to generalise too much from your own individual bad experience?I packed in my office job last year to learn myself a trade... I started out with an absolute cowboy of a plumber.
The thing for me is where do you draw the line at what discrimination is
too fat
too thin
too tall
too short
where you come from
what religion you are
what your name is
how you speak
too ugly
too good-looking (that's my one)
too old
too young
bald
too much hair
face hair
bad dresser
bad breath
I just think it's unfair that there should be grants for employers to get female apprentices, no such grant applies for men to be secretaries or nurses.
Are you suggesting that there is a gender balance in these two areas?The comparison with nurses and secretaries is a poor one and comes across as rather emotive. Unless you can provide the data that is.
Are you suggesting that there is a gender balance in these two areas?
Are you sure about there being "very few blokes" in some of those sort of jobs? In my experience there are quite a few working as nurses, librarians and in HR.
By the way I don't think that anybody has posted the link to the scheme in question already?
You are acting as an employer, so no. FAS is acting as a training/scheme provider, not an employer. It is an incentive, not a direct payment to the individual apprentice.
Should this be in Letting off Steam, or is it a genuine work question?
FAS is acting as a training/scheme provider, not an employer. It is an incentive, not a direct payment to the individual apprentice.
There are plenty of "front desk" male librarians in the libraries that I visit regularly (Cabra and Central/ILAC). I recall there being quite a few in Ballymun and Phibsboro when I used to visit a few years back.most men that are librarians are in the higher up managery type jobs so you don't see them in the branches
contains, among other things, instructions on posting links.Thats it, thanks, I would have done it but don't know how.
Now why didn't I think of that?I guess you could email http://www.equality.ie/ and ask?
Maybe ask the the Equality Authority? Perhaps there is some loophole/exemption for this?
There are plenty of "front desk" male librarians in the libraries that I visit regularly (Cabra and Central/ILAC). I recall there being quite a few in Ballymun and Phibsboro when I used to visit a few years back.
contains, among other things, instructions on posting links.
I guess you could email http://www.equality.ie/ and ask?
Now why didn't I think of that?
There are plenty of "front desk" male librarians in the libraries that I visit regularly (Cabra and Central/ILAC). I recall there being quite a few in Ballymun and Phibsboro when I used to visit a few years back.
Exactly. 25% is hardly "very few".My wife is a librarian for many years.
She interviews on a regular basis.
I asked her last night for her idea on % of men compared to women from her experience it would be 25% men to 75% women.
I suppose in the same way there are very few blokes in
secretarial work, nursing, librarianship or personel
Eh?!I'll be going through the posting guidelines myself.
Yes but FAS is a govt agency paid for with tax payers money, ie both men and women pay tax so why should women be the sole benificiaries.
By the way I don't think that anybody has posted the link to the scheme in question already?
Thats it, thanks, I would have done it but don't know how.
contains, among other things, instructions on posting links.
I'll be going through the posting guidelines myself.
Exactly. 25% is hardly "very few".
Sole beneficiaries is a bit strong IMO. As far as I can see the female apprentices get no extra pay. It simply shifts the entrance balance a little.
Presumably the thinking is that, statistically, employers would be less inclined to offer female apprentice applicants a place (because there are so few in the trades). The relatively small grant is designed to overcome that hurdle.
Why is this worrying you so much?
Re: FAS grants for female apprentices, sexist?
Yes it is!
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