EU and Japan to sign historic trade deal

joe sod said:
On the question of fishing surely Leo varadker should be more worried about Irish waters being swamped with European fishing trawlers when the UK waters are denied to them. This is a practical issue which the Irish government haven't talked about , surely the quotas of European fish caught in Irish waters should be reduced . Irish waters will becoming like the grand banks off Newfoundland , fished out and desolate
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Very much on topic.
I think that is what Vradakar was alluding to when he spoke of EU taking back its skies. Apparently such talk is a 'threat' to UK, but not allowing Irish fishing vessels into UK waters is not a threat?
Of course, when the Farage's and Johnsons et al are brought to the table of real politik and pragmatism they will realise that to have their cake and eat it, that in negotiation compromise is King, that 'trade' is a two-way street.
 
In my opinion May is the weakest PM in the last 30 years and yet she is still a far better option than the scheming, imperialist, populist, spineless toad that is Boris Johnson. He personifies and epitomises everything about Englishness that I dislike. I have no problem with his privileged upbringing; Cameron had that and he is a decent person. I have no problem with his bumbling persona. It is that English Nationalism, wrapped in bombast and wistfully looking back as a glorious past that I despise.
That was the past of squalour and racism and the most appalling sexism. That was the past of Empire and invasion and subjugation. It was the past where a privileged few, those of Johnson's stock, where being a corpulent bumbling bigot was the norm, not the description of the pretender.

BS is 100% correct to ask what on Earth the UK is looking for when in reality they won't be getting any deals that are better than the ones they have now. They have jumped off the edge of the mountain in the hope that someday soon they might be able to climb back to the top of a different mountain which is exactly the same height.

But it will be their mountain and there won't be any foreigners on it.
 
Purple said:
In my opinion May is the weakest PM in the last 30 years and yet she is still a far better option than the scheming, imperialist, populist, spineless toad that is Boris Johnson. He personifies and epitomises everything about Englishness that I dislike. I have no problem with his privileged upbringing; Cameron had that and he is a decent person. I have no problem with his bumbling persona. It is that English Nationalism, wrapped in bombast and wistfully looking back as a glorious past that I despise.
That was the past of squalour and racism and the most appalling sexism. That was the past of Empire and invasion and subjugation. It was the past where a privileged few, those of Johnson's stock, where being a corpulent bumbling bigot was the norm, not the description of the pretender.

BS is 100% correct to ask what on Earth the UK is looking for when in reality they won't be getting any deals that are better than the ones they have now. They have jumped off the edge of the mountain in the hope that someday soon they might be able to climb back to the top of a different mountain which is exactly the same height.

But it will be their mountain and there won't be any foreigners on it.
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I think her timing is good she left them sitting inside the tent thinking if they did nothing the UK would finish up with a hard Brexit I suspect she managed them out of there jobs
without splitting her party any more than it is already and will finish up with a soft Brexit in the long run ,
 
Purple said:
It is that English Nationalism, wrapped in bombast and wistfully looking back as a glorious past that I despise. That was the past of squalour and racism and the most appalling sexism. That was the past of Empire and invasion and subjugation. It was the past where a privileged few, those of Johnson's stock, where being a corpulent bumbling bigot was the norm, not the description of the pretender.
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What gives you the idea that BoJo is anything like that? I don't warm to him personally, but he says he wants an open, forward-looking UK, not a backward looking, sexist, racist one. What do you have against him other than his accent probably sounds like a colonel from some movie you saw about the Amritsar Massacre? Is that not a bit bigoted in itself?
 
Purple said:
That was the past of squalour and racism and the most appalling sexism. That was the past of Empire and invasion and subjugation. It was the past where a privileged few, those of Johnson's stock, where being a corpulent bumbling bigot was the norm, not the description of the pretender.
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I think the nation that produced the specimen that is Brian Cowen throwing out lines about foreign politicians being corpulent and bumbling is a bit of a stones in glass houses moment. Johnson was a very capabale 21st century Mayor of London. I see more bigotry in what you are saying than in Johnson.
The head of the EU is a corrupt drunk for what it's worth but I don't use that to make general insults about Luxemburgians - after all they got rid of Juncker when his corruption became too blatant.
 
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dub_nerd said:
What gives you the idea that BoJo is anything like that?
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Things like this and this.
All to that his Imperialistic rhetoric and ridiculous attempts to re-cast himself as a latter day Churchill.
He's very funny and quite smart but not a person to hold real power.
 
odyssey06 said:
I think the nation that produced the specimen that is Brian Cowen throwing out lines about foreign politicians being corpulent and bumbling is a bit of a stones in glass houses moment.
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Why? Just because we had one that doesn't mean BJ isn't one as well.
 
Purple said:
Why? Just because we had one that doesn't mean BJ isn't one as well.
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Looks like you are wasting your time talking about the also ran May was in control all along David Boris are Toast after May showed they were never in control of there own Department Today,
 
I like punctuation. It's one of those things you don't appreciate until it's not there.
 
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RETIRED2017 said:
Some times it can make you blind and you don't notice,
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There has never been a case where the presence of correct punctuation has clouded the message, indeed it generally helps make sense of the otherwise incomprehensible.
 
Purple said:
Things like this and this.
All to that his Imperialistic rhetoric and ridiculous attempts to re-cast himself as a latter day Churchill.
He's very funny and quite smart but not a person to hold real power.
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I stopped here:
On Hillary Clinton, Telegraph 2007
She's got dyed blonde hair and pouty lips, and a steely blue stare, like a sadistic nurse in a mental hospital.
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He wasn't far wrong.
 
Leo said:
There has never been a case where the presence of correct punctuation has clouded the message, indeed it generally helps make sense of the otherwise incomprehensible.
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sometimes it can can make you blind and you don't notice,
 
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