They were beaten well and despite the goal they didnt get, Germany deserved victory.
I cant see the reason for gloating though.
My team (the one which I nominated as potential outright winners in another thread) won. Gloat, gloat gloat; gloat, gloat gloat ....... I cant see the reason for gloating though.
Not sure why anyone is surprised or is blaming Capello. England players are simply not good enough. Glen Johnson, Matthew Upson, Jermaine Defoe, Gareth Barry, Emile Heskey, Peter Crouch are not even good Champions League Players. Frank Lampard and Stephen Garrard are great players doing a certain job but are not great midfeild players i.e. in getting the ball and controlling a game (hence why Capello wanted Scholes back so much). John Terry is past his best. England have two world class players in Rooney and Ashley Cole. Rooney wasn't fit and hasn't been since he got injured. Cole had a good world cup despite his personal problems.
They were rubbish against USA and Algeria. Despite the press reports, they were also rubbish against Solvenia who were the smallest nation at the world cup and lost to Northern Ireland in the qualifiers. Yesterday was a disaster waiting to happen. I have to say I was amazed at how bad they actually turned out to be though. For a team managed by Capello to concede a goal from a kick out is unbelievable. Having said all that, I was sorry to see them go out in that manner.
No they didn't. Weren't in the same group.
Think you are getting mixed up with another qualifying campaign.
Not sure why anyone is surprised or is blaming Capello. England players are simply not good enough. Glen Johnson, Matthew Upson, Jermaine Defoe, Gareth Barry, Emile Heskey, Peter Crouch are not even good Champions League Players. Frank Lampard and Stephen Garrard are great players doing a certain job but are not great midfeild players i.e. in getting the ball and controlling a game (hence why Capello wanted Scholes back so much). John Terry is past his best. England have two world class players in Rooney and Ashley Cole. Rooney wasn't fit and hasn't been since he got injured. Cole had a good world cup despite his personal problems.
I agree with a lot of what you are saying about the players but Capello has to take a great deal of the blame.
I never really thought about club v international managers until this world cup. Capello is a good club manager. He is a rubbish international manager. That is beyond doubt IMO. It was his first time ever to manage at a tournament and he was terrible.
- Terry and David James had separate mini-mutinies.
- He moved the players to a base far away from everything but then didn't manage the boredom.
- He left players hanging on to see who would play.
- He called up Paul Scholes and Carragher at the last minute.
- He was stubborn and wouldn't change the formation when the whole world and his dog could see that 442 was never, ever going to work at this level.
- He played Heskey when they needed goals.
- He played Rooney against Slovenia when he should have been dropped after the Algeria game.
- He publicly spoke about how important Barry was. Barry is useless at that level. Carrick is mediocre but 3 league medals and a chamions league might at least warrant a game. He could not be any worse than Barry and at least he would have ran after Ozil.
- He talked about the usual "passion" rubbish. That way of playing is from the 80's.
- Did I mention he played Heskey when they needed goals?
I agree with a lot of what you are saying about the players but Capello has to take a great deal of the blame.
I never really thought about club v international managers until this world cup. Capello is a good club manager. He is a rubbish international manager. That is beyond doubt IMO. It was his first time ever to manage at a tournament and he was terrible.
- Terry and David James had separate mini-mutinies.
- He moved the players to a base far away from everything but then didn't manage the boredom.
- He left players hanging on to see who would play.
- He called up Paul Scholes and Carragher at the last minute.
- He was stubborn and wouldn't change the formation when the whole world and his dog could see that 442 was never, ever going to work at this level.
- He played Heskey when they needed goals.
- He played Rooney against Slovenia when he should have been dropped after the Algeria game.
- He publicly spoke about how important Barry was. Barry is useless at that level. Carrick is mediocre but 3 league medals and a chamions league might at least warrant a game. He could not be any worse than Barry and at least he would have ran after Ozil.
- He talked about the usual "passion" rubbish. That way of playing is from the 80's.
- Did I mention he played Heskey when they needed goals?
Yes they were. They lost 1-0 in Belfast in April 09.
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Sunny is correct
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