The Standing Charge is an annual charge included in your Price Plan and it is for the fixed costs associated with providing electricity supply
So all this nonsense's about "green, renewable, zero carbon, sustainable" energy sources is all hoo-hah, buzz-words and PC posturing. For each wind-farm manufactured and erected at enormous expense there must be a corresponding spend in traditional energy generation technology, thereby doubling the capital expenditure to supply the same energy to the grid. This doubles the "fixed costs" to the consumer with no environmental saving what-so-ever.You have the cost of installing all those wind turbines combined with the cost of needing 100% conventional back up with all the fixed costs including labour associated with that even when you have alot of wind power.
I un derstand that, but fixed costs have not gone up by 60% - for example, I don't think that the workers have got a 60% increase in their pay, or that the cost of maintaining wind farms has increased by 60%Fixed costs are rarely fixed. In this case it will be more expensive to maintain the infrastructure because the cost of doing so will have gone up, for example, the cost of putting diesel into their vans will have increased, cost of spare parts have increased and staff costs are also going upwards. The misnomer here is the use of the word "fixed" in their description
Correct, but this is a different argument - the increase in the "Standing Charge" is just a con to make more profitSo all this nonsense's about "green, renewable, zero carbon, sustainable" energy sources is all hoo-hah, buzz-words and PC posturing. For each wind-farm manufactured and erected at enormous expense there must be a corresponding spend in traditional energy generation technology, thereby doubling the capital expenditure to supply the same energy to the grid. This doubles the "fixed costs" to the consumer with no environmental saving what-so-ever.
I think my thesis is supported by the evidence from our energy bills.
If you took the lowest discounted prices on offer Ireland would be one of the lowest if not the lowest price in Europe.Ireland has the third highest electricity prices in Europe after Denmark and Germany. What do we all have in common though ,the very high amounts of wind energy on our grids and the high cost associated with balancing this variable source with conventional power mostly gas generation.
You have the cost of installing all those wind turbines combined with the cost of needing 100% conventional back up with all the fixed costs including labour associated with that even when you have alot of wind power.
People are using less energy
No, current new homes are exceptionally warm along with homes that have upgraded.But surely it's only electricity that's relevant to your point?
No, current new homes are exceptionally warm along with homes that have upgraded.
I've gone from using almost 2,000l of kerosene to just over 1000 by upgrading insulation and modern boiler with zones
A window upgrade this summer should see my use drop further.
Tak about a rubbish answet!Thanks for your recent email to Bord Gáis Energy.
I wish to confirm the standing charge is a daily charge that covers the cost of keeping you connected to the network and also general supply costs. Please note we always aim to have our standing charge as low as possible.
Part of the unit cost was for non generation costs. (Pass-through charges) They've simply moved them into the standing charges to increase the revenue without having to increase unit costs even further.What has that got to do with electricity standing charges which was the issue being discussed? Decreasing kerosene use is irrelevant.
With increasing use of geothermal heating and electric vehicles I don't think lower electricity consumption is an issue that is causing standing charges to rise.
I'd be interested to see any links you have about lower demand for electricity.
no, even if the premise were correct, which it isnt, we already have the conventional power sources in place, its not like every time you build a wind farm a new conventional plant of the same size has to be built.So all this nonsense's about "green, renewable, zero carbon, sustainable" energy sources is all hoo-hah, buzz-words and PC posturing. For each wind-farm manufactured and erected at enormous expense there must be a corresponding spend in traditional energy generation technology, thereby doubling the capital expenditure to supply the same energy to the grid. This doubles the "fixed costs" to the consumer with no environmental saving what-so-ever.
I think my thesis is supported by the evidence from our energy bills.
Have you contacted the Energy Regulator ?I replied back to Bord Gáis saying that they had not replied to my question on standing charges and they replied again, basically saying the same thing.
There is no justification at all for standing charges being increased by the amounts they have.
They have increased the standing charges to recover over and above the cost of the network so that the surplus can be used to keep unit charges lower than they otherwise would be.
So this is a subsidy from low usage customers to high usage customers who are the ones benefitting from the lower unit cost at the expense of the low usage customers.
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