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I know 13% approx are unemployed. But with so many, widows, lone parents, those on SE schemes etc not being counted, does anyone know off hand what % are in employment. Just curious.
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Wonder what the breakdown is between full and part time?
If only I'd thought to provide a link to that very information. oh wait, I did!
1,448,900 full time, 410,200 part time (of whom 16,000 are underemployed, ie looking for more hours)
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If only I'd thought to provide a link to that very information. oh wait, I did!
Sorry Berni - I actually had the link open, but the question jumped out of me before Id found the answer.
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Thanks for the info and the link Bernie. When they call it the National House Hold Survey does this mean that they gather the information by calling to a defined number of homes and averaging out the numbers, surely not. Apologies if this stated in the document somewhere I havn't had a chance to read the whole lot.
Towger, why would over a third of the 13% be unemployable? Is it age related or something?
Towger, why would over a third of the 13% be unemployable? Is it age related or something?
That's my understanding of how it works. They call to my house every quarter.
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Really Michalem, they have never called to my house other than for the Census.
I wonder how many houses they survery and if it is just during daytime hours Monday to friday.
The 16% part-timers looking for additional hours would seem a bit odd to me.
You would think that in this age of technology they could have a somewhat more scientific approach to the whole thing.
I wonder how many houses they survery and if it is just during daytime hours Monday to friday.
The 16% part-timers looking for additional hours would seem a bit odd to me.
You would think that in this age of technology they could have a somewhat more scientific approach to the whole thing.
We were randomly selected, apparently, but that entails repeat visits. The woman has been three times so far, records everything on a laptop. She has called in the evening time but not at weekends. I don't know the size of the sample; I must ask her next time.
They survey 39,000 households every quarter. The sample is designed to give coverage accross the country, and to give representative numbers in terms of age, gender, etc.
It is scientific as constructed, they don't just pick a random sample.
Consider that if you are doing an opinion poll, you only need to ask 1,000 people to get a good approximation of the answer. Asking 10,000 won't get you a statistially significantly better one.
Its not just office hours, the surveys are conducted in the evenings too.
It is scientific as constructed, they don't just pick a random sample.
Consider that if you are doing an opinion poll, you only need to ask 1,000 people to get a good approximation of the answer. Asking 10,000 won't get you a statistially significantly better one.
Its not just office hours, the surveys are conducted in the evenings too.
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Given that there is around 60 working days in the average quarter that is 650 households surveyed on each of these days. Quite a lot. If the average surveyed per day was 20 (which would be a fairly big ask) then you would need 32 people doing this full time.
Glad its not just a random 1,000 people as I though it might be. Anyone else been surveyed?
Glad its not just a random 1,000 people as I though it might be. Anyone else been surveyed?
So we were randomly selected within our target profile then?
Yes, the last step of the selection is random. The numbers are big enough that some fluctuation in the actual composition of the households selected doesn't throw off the results.
I think what Towger means is that, in any economy, it is accepted that 'full-employment' is the labour force less 3-5% registered as unemployed. These would include people between jobs (1-4 weeks), unemployabel due to substance abuse, disabilities (not all such can be certifed as 'unfit for work' slthough ther type ofg weork they could do is limited.unavailable) and, of course, abusers of the welfare system.
On the news again this week I heard that the number of people becoming unemployed is slowing down and the rate of unemployment sign ons is "bottoming out" but what about the fact there is a huge chunk 400k plus of people unemployed and even if it bottoms out they need and want to get back to work.
I feel like the Government are expecting a pat on the back for this "bottoming out" without addressing the issue of what next for those 400k people? Is long term unemployment going to become a reality?
I feel like the Government are expecting a pat on the back for this "bottoming out" without addressing the issue of what next for those 400k people? Is long term unemployment going to become a reality?