Electric Heating

podgerodge

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Hi
A family member is purchasing a second hand house - a small (65 sqm) 2 bed mid terrace house.

No gas supply to the estate, it's all electric heating.

The sellers have removed all old electric radiators so it's bare walls.

From what I gather, getting electric radiators for 2 beds, kitchen, small dining, bathroom might be somewhere about €3-4k. Not sure about installation costs but it seems straightforward enough. Appreciate any advice from people who have done this, a lot of different radatiors out there, currently looking at Rointe.ie


Thanks!
 

lonelyplanet

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Hi Podgerodge.
For a house of that size it should not cost 3K for electric heating but if you want to part with it I'll do the job for ya :)
I am guessing 2 bed, living, kitchen and bathroom.
Storage heaters were the traditional method of electric heating apartments and some houses in the past but now the electric heaters are very good...I have installed many of them and all they require is socket in the room that you can plug the heater in.

I have used a product called ATC Sunray and they have new models coming out every year. Some of the models can be managed remotely via an app that you can switch on/off when required.

Anyway suggest you google ATC Sunray and visit a good electrical wholesaler or speak to your electrician.

Best of luck
 

podgerodge

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Thanks very much lonelyplanet. You are not far wrong with your guess!

A supplier I rang today told me (based on measurements for individual rooms) said I would need:

kitchen 770w, dining 990w, bed1 - 770w, bed2 - 990w, bath 500w rail.

It looked like very roughly about €3k for the rads and I don't know about installation but doesn't look too difficult.

Here is the radiators I was looking at:


Will have a look at ATC too. Where would an electrician come in - there isn't a need for one to install is there?

Edit: Had a look at ATC, very interesting, especially given Irish website and prices include VAT and Installation. I didn't see a towel rail for the bath, but there is a 500w rad. Looks like total cost of all the rads given info about might be about €2.5k incl install. Thoughts? Thanks again.
 
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lonelyplanet

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Am I missing something?
Where is the guesswork that he could be far wrong with? :D:D

Could be a night club on Leeson st :)

Podgerodge the heaters are easy to install ...All you need is to be near a wall socket...Screw brackets to wall and then hang your rad on the brackets. Check out the different manufacturers...I dont have experience of other electric rad manufacturers except ATC Sunray...

Best of luck..
 

Buddyboy

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And if the sellers have removed all old electric heaters, then I assume the (correctly specced) wiring is in place. So it's just a matter of wiring up the new radiators.
 

lonelyplanet

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podrerodge there is another brand I came across at the time called Fahro but seemingly the ATC customer service is better...As one of the previous posters mentioned you can get freestanding heaters but personally I dont like them !! All you need to be able to do is wire a 3 pin plug for these heaters... Best of luck
 

Zenith63

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Anybody got a sense of the cost to operate of electric radiators like these, compared to a gas boiler and traditional rads?

The ability to set the temperature you want for individual rooms, control from an app, easily retrofit to rooms where getting pipes may be difficult etc sounds great!
 

SparkRite

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Anybody got a sense of the cost to operate of electric radiators like these, compared to a gas boiler and traditional rads?

The ability to set the temperature you want for individual rooms, control from an app, easily retrofit to rooms where getting pipes may be difficult etc sounds great!
The end cost to heat by electricity alone is generally higher, compared to using other sources.
However it is usually more/easily controllable, practically 'instant', more user friendly (as you pointed out above) and is highly efficient.
 

Zenith63

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I wonder will ESB have to increase the standard supply/fuse size they supply to home? In the depths of winter you might be drawing 5-6kW for electric heaters, 14kW with two cars charging, 4 kW for the oven, 3kW if the kettle goes on - nearly double the standard 63A fuse.
 

Branz

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I wonder will ESB have to increase the standard supply/fuse size they supply to home? In the depths of winter you might be drawing 5-6kW for electric heaters, 14kW with two cars charging, 4 kW for the oven, 3kW if the kettle goes on - nearly double the standard 63A fuse.
You wont be drawing 14 for the two cars as you will need a priority switch or else intelligent chargers
 

Zenith63

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Even with one charger plus all that other stuff you're over an 80A fuse, never mind the standard 63A though. But I understand the point, you could be more intelligent about your load. It would just be much more convenient if the ESB just started putting 120A supplies or three-phase into all new builds to cater for all personal transport and home heating switching over to electric in the coming years.
 
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