One of the biggest consumers of that pharma/IT ilk is Amazon, who have committed to 100% renewable energy and are actively investing in solar and wind farm in Ireland. Might suggest they are not quite so concerned?
One of the biggest consumers of that pharma/IT ilk is Amazon, who have committed to 100% renewable energy and are actively investing in solar and wind farm in Ireland. Might suggest they are not quite so concerned?... in fact the concern is that Ireland will be seen as an unreliable electricity supplier to the big Pharma and IT industries here if we continue to have these orange alerts. The hard reality of power and energy is pushing up against ideology and government tokenism.
Yes, we're really treated like Uyghurs here. NOT.At least we are consistent; we export our environmental pollution by preventing the production of dirty products here but still import them from abroad. Now we have a long term strategy to enable a police state which actively seeks to damage our interests and undermine out freedoms.
What?Yes, we're really treated like Uyghurs here. NOT.
I think fidelcastro may have misread your original post the same way I did. I thought you were implying Ireland was becoming a police state (lockdowns, mandatory quarantine etc), it's a common narrative in the press at the moment. Makes a lot more sense now and I fully agree with you!What?
I'm talking about giving Russia a strategic level which it can use to control EU foreign policy. We are overwhelmingly reliant on them for our supply of natural gas and have adopted policies which only strengthens their position.
There's no environmental value of stopping the search for hydrocarbons within our territorial waters if we continue to burn imported hydrocarbons. There is considerable geopolitical damage when our primary source for those hydrocarbons is a police state which actively seeks to damage us.
I take from your username that you have some sympathy for dictators but I'm a fan of free democracies.
Purple, excellent post. I misread your intent same as Zenith..!I think fidelcastro may have misread your original post the same way I did. I thought you were implying Ireland was becoming a police state (lockdowns, mandatory quarantine etc), it's a common narrative in the press at the moment. Makes a lot more sense now and I fully agree with you!
But they won't be burning bog land, amongst the best Carbon sinks in the world.Those emergency generators will be burning diesel much more inefficiently than a dedicated power station.
Bogs are actively sequestering additional CO2, oil/gas fields are not. Bogs are a big part of our biodiversity, oil/gas fields are not. Peat is an exceptionally dirty fuel to burn compared to oil/gas, both in-terms of CO2 but also other pollutants which are realistically much more dangerous to us in our lifetimes (unlike CO2 which we're really trying to control on behalf of future generations).So are Saudi Arabian oil and gas fields, they have stored up carbon and energy from millions of years of sunshine.
The decision was made to keep them open for as long as they were running because of wrong headed dogma rather than realistic practical concerns. We should have stopped cutting or burning our bogs 30 years ago. Stupid mutton-headed knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers who ignore science and the real issues were the empty vessels making all the local noise and, given the gombeen nature of Irish politics, those people were listened to.Decisions were made because of wrong headed environmental dogma rather than realistic practical concerns
maybe you are correct but thats an overall observation of irish politics its not unique to turf cutting and using peat to generate electricity. In any case those gombeens are gone and have now been replaced by the modern version in the green party. The fact is that in the Eirgrid plan those stations were to be operated until 2025 until replacement generation like gas could be brought online.Stupid mutton-headed knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers who ignore science and the real issues were the empty vessels making all the local noise and, given the gombeen nature of Irish politics, those people were listened to.
If they were refused permission then they must have applied right? It would follow that conditions applied to previous grants stipulated some limitation they were applying to have altered. It's all online, why not look it up?However they were refused planning permission to continue until then, when exactly did the planning authority get permission to stop an already existing generating station that now turns out to be in critical need?
From an environmental perspective the generators are better. Burning Peat is like burning Rainforest.would it not have been simpler just to rescind the power of the planning authorities in the case of the midlands generating stations until replacements were ready. Whats the difference ?
I do agree that there is a fundamental lack of planning on this issue but that's not unique. In fact it is ubiquitous. I'm not sure how many politicians or employees in the Departments concerned live in D4 though.thats the real gombeen politics and its alive and well and living in Dublin4 not Ballygobackwards
Yes they had to apply and were refused by an bord planeala to burn biomass, in fact they were forced to decommission the plant as well even though barely half way through its lifespan, the option to use other fuels and keep it in operation was also taken away. That was stupid and gombeen politics when barely a year later we are facing critical shortages in power.If they were refused permission then they must have applied right? It would follow that conditions applied to previous grants stipulated some limitation they were applying to have altered. It's all online, why not look it up?
Seriously, is this even a major issue for Ireland? According to the European Environmental Agency Ireland produces 60,744 kilotonnes C02 equivalent greenhouse gas emissions https://www.europarl.europa.eu/reso...0191015PHT64308/20191015PHT64308_original.jpg. This is 1.41% of total EU greenhouse gas emissions. Relative to other countries we don't really pollute at all. The risk here is that Ireland will accept EU controls more appropriate for the high polluting countries and in doing so will place this country at a relative competititve disadvantage.In comparison.to what China and India are going to pump into the atmosphere the Midlands power stations were negligible. We shut them down without having a replacement and still with millions of euros of infrastructure investment wasted. Decisions were made because of wrong headed environmental dogma rather than realistic practical concerns
Seriously, is this even a major issue for Ireland? According to the European Environmental Agency Ireland produces 60,744 kilotonnes C02 equivalent greenhouse gas emissions https://www.europarl.europa.eu/reso...0191015PHT64308/20191015PHT64308_original.jpg. This is 1.41% of total EU greenhouse gas emissions. Relative to other countries we don't really pollute at all. The risk here is that Ireland will accept EU controls more appropriate for the high polluting countries and in doing so will place this country at a relative competititve disadvantage.
And even this figure is exaggerated because of the unfair way carbon from agriculture is calculated. Because we have a relatively small population and a relatively large agricultural output , we are in effect producing g food for the UK and Germany but we get levelled with the CO2 rather than UK or Germany. The fact is that if we cut back our agricultural output because of CO2 levies somebody else is still going to have to produce that food because brits and Germans still need to eat. Of course we could reduce our per capita CO2 levels by dramatically increasing our population, there is no CO2 penalty for that.This is 1.41% of total EU greenhouse gas emissions. Relative to other countries we don't really pollute at all.