To be honest I think it is so selfish of you to withdraw your son from communion class and not allow him to make his first holy communion (despite the hypocritism of baptising him into the faith but then changing your mind) What you should do is allow him to make his sacraments - communion and confirmation - and then make up his own mind as an adult about what he wants to practise. You are ramming your own views down his throat by force? You don't agree so therefore he has to be different from the rest of his class? You disapprove so you are using your child to make your stand? He is your son and you are not giving him his religion and allowing him to choose.
If I was your sister I would withdraw my offer but certainly in your case I can't believe you would go ahead.
When your son is an adult and maybe tells you that he felt ostracised as a child because you didn't allow him make his communion (a huge part of the school year for him this year in class) and that he doesn't know why you used him to make your point and then became a godmother the same year, well I hope you have some answer for him then.
I'm truly sorry if this all seems very harsh but I am in shock at using your son to make your point. My parents had many kids, we all had the sacraments and then as adults decided for ourselves whether to go to Mass or not.
What a heap of....... :mad:
He does not have a religion - He was indoctrinated into a church when he had no choice. Why not let him learn about all religions, and if he should choose to become a member - let him make his communion and confirmation as an adult.
I applaud Ali. More parents should be like her. if you are not there to guide them through a church - why let them be a member without family support.
To be honest I think it is so selfish of you to withdraw your son from communion class and not allow him to make his first holy communion (despite the hypocritism of baptising him into the faith but then changing your mind)
you still have a choice as to whether you baptise your child or not.
Communion is a time when kids enjoy the day out and the dress up but alot of kids also take on board the message which is taught throughout the year and that can be no bad thing.
Kids don't really get into the whole pros and cons of the church and they won't be brainwashed as a result of making their Communion so what harm in letting them enjoy the year thats in it?
Unfortunatly with our school system you dont have much choice.
But in reality - how many parents who bring their little darlings to Communion actually believe in and follow the teachings of the church.
You're going to stand in the church and promise to reject Satan and pledge to guide your godchild in religion
Seriously, back out
You are a hypocrite, well you will be if you do it
Are you realy going to take those vows? You shouldn't take a vow lightly
Huh ? In an Educate Together school, it doesn't arise. In a National School, children who have not been baptised are not excluded from the preparations for the Sacrament.
Parents do many things that they don't truly believe in, for the sake of the children. When they're old enough, the children can decide for themselves. Until then, the parents have to be parents and provide an example.
Everyone who goes along with the Catholic church is implicitily condoning their actions, .. i.e supporting decades of organised child abuse.
Many middle-class parents would prefer to quietly negotiate a labyrinth of shabby moral compromise while pretending their hands have been tied by the system
I disagree to an extent.
If someone chooses to have their newly born children baptised then they are supporting the Catholic Church, and implicitly condoning their actions. People could choose not to baptise their children. I'm astonished that anyone would even consider having anything to do with the church, they clearly covered up and supported systematic child abuse.
And adult abuse too... many women were devastated by the church telling them that their stillborn children could never experience God.. (i.e limbo, now gone for some reason)... this was physcological abuse of adults.
People who have bank accounts are in some way responsible for the actions of the banks. If there were no customers then the banks would close... unless of course the government kept them open.
Keep in mind that the government like to say that drug users are the cause of crime gangs... which ignores the fact that it's drugs prohibition that is the root cause of crime gangs.
If everyone boycotted the Catholic Church then they'd lose power and disappear.. wouldn't that be great? I for one would be dead happy, they belong in the 3rd century, not the 21st. Does anyone here actually believe that God and the Devil are real?.. any more real than the Tooth Fairy?
Choosing baptism is choosing catholicism and not an indication that you agree with the men running the church.
Your logic suggests the following; Joe bloggs has abused children in the past, his mother and father are aware of it, but his 5 brothers are not and the parents hide the matter from family and friends. News then comes out about Joe and the fact that his parents covered up his actions. Cue public outcry and the Bloggs are scum and nobody should be associated with them. Not exactly fair on the innocent 5 brothers who knew nothing and had no part in any crime.
Why not choose a different Christian denomination, that isn't so big on child abuse?.. for example, the church of England, Protestantism,.. or one of the American evangelical churches?
Why not simply live a good life?
Of course your example isn't fair.. but is the church accepting responsibilty now for the abuse in the past?.. it certainly doesn't look like it, the pope won't even accept resiginations and he refuses to condemn the actions of senior members of his church.
What about the Brazillian mother who was ex-communicated from the church for seeking an abortion for her 9 year old raped child? The church took no action against the rapist. Sick or what?
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